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Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by pdonis on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @10:56PM (#21199566)
> Use technology to survive in an inhospitable atmosphere.

Oh, please. The atmosphere will be perfectly hospitable. This is just FUD.

Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by falcolas on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @10:59PM (#21199579)
Really? Everything I’ve heard indicates a fairly dramatic change in the weather patterns as our global temperatures rise by even 1-2 degrees. The atmosphere is not just the chemical makeup, it’s the weather it creates. The droughts. The flash floods. The unnaturally cold winters, and unnaturally hot summers. Or vice versa - neither is very good for us.
Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by pdonis on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:07PM (#21199624)
> Everything I’ve heard indicates a fairly dramatic change in the weather patterns as our global temperatures rise by even 1-2 degrees.

These are not predictions based on data. They are predictions based on models--the same models that have been overpredicting warming for several decades now.

The actual data says that extreme events have not been getting more frequent. Their consequences have been getting more severe because so many more people live in areas that are primarily affected by them. That's not a climate change problem: that's a problem of mismanagement and politics. The southwest US has been a desert for centuries if not millennia--now all of a sudden lack of water is a problem? Anyone with half a brain could have seen that coming. Coastal cities are finding problems with drainage? Sea levels have been rising since the last Ice Age ended, and if your coastal city in a hurricane zone suddenly has a problem with a storm surge, that just means you've been ignoring the problem for too long.

Yes, the climate is changing; it's always been changing, and it will keep changing. People need to be given accurate information about risks and the tools to adapt to change.

Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by jbay808 on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:40PM (#21199788)
Do you have a citation on the claim that mainstream models have been overpredicting warning? I'm not aware of it.
Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by klingonopera on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:52PM (#21199853)
I'd like to seem them too.

From what I've heard so far, scientists have been underestimating the nature of climate change, almost perpetually, like any good scientist should do in order to keep their reputation.

2009: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7890988.stm

2019: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/scientists...

Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by pdonis on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @01:06AM (#21200204)
Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by klingonopera on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @02:55AM (#21200741)
Cherry-picked input and model data to exaggerate their claims, Pat Michaels and Chip Knappenberger both work for the CATO institute, and Ross McKitrick is an economics professor and known climate change denier[0].

I do not have enough in-depth understanding of climate sciences in order to fully comprehend the articles you've attached, nor can I be bothered to (there's no attempt to make it accessible for the layman), but the comment section appears to be quite telling.

Does that sound rich to you? Well, I'm a simple programmer, not a climate change specialist, but Judith Curry OTOH is, and she has chosen to "not “bother with” peer-reviewed journals, in favor of publishing her own papers so that she could editorialize and write what she wanted “without worrying about the norms and agendas of the ‘establishment.’”"[1]. In other words, she's a lone scientist defying the consensus. Maybe she's our modern day plate-tectonist, but in all probability, not.

EDIT: To summarize, why even write (apparent) highly scientific articles if you're ignoring all the other scientists? To me, it just seems like someone wants to appear that way.

[0]: https://twitter.com/carbonbrief/status/913361157846597634

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Curry

Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by pdonis on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:08PM (#21208089)
> I do not have enough in-depth understanding of climate sciences in order to fully comprehend the articles you've attached, nor can I be bothered to

And yet you have no problem accusing the authors of "cherry-picking" and exaggeration. Amazing how people refuse to accept that ignorance and refusal to look at the facts disqualifies them from having an opinion.

Btw, Judith Curry has plenty of published peer-reviewed papers; even the Wikipedia article you reference notes that (apparently you can't be bothered to read that either). She took the position you describe in 2019 (according to that same article); her doing so was based on bitter experience with how much the peer review process has been hijacked by ideological partisans.

Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by pdonis on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:17PM (#21208197)
> she's a lone scientist defying the consensus

If you think Judith Curry is the only scientist who questions the "consensus" in climate science, you are extremely misinformed.

Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by rosege on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @10:45PM (#21210355)
Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by falcolas on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @12:11AM (#21199952)
Yeah, let me get back to you on the overestimation of the severity and frequency of weather events after I make it through our second record breaking snow storm this fall.

Sure, this could just be an isolated event, but there sure have been a lot of record breaking isolated events these last couple of years.

Re:Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered in Siberia by jaakl on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @12:02AM (#21199894)
Maybe some years ago it was just models. By now we have also a lot of direct data. Make yourself up to date with recent developments.