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Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by ncmncm on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @04:48AM (#21201287)
Power is out here. Not a trace of wind.

This is just corporate spite. "Look what you made us do!"

Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by thrax on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:50AM (#21201608)
Partly that but also partly "we spent that sweet infrastructure money on other stuff so we have to turn things off now because our infrastructure is decrepit and we learned that we get sued when our transformers explode and cause fires, so we are, again, passing the inconvenience on to consumers.
Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by onfire on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @02:38PM (#21206434)
Oh come on, as a consumer you do have to choose a bit between "I want it...cheap!" and "I want to sue you to rebuild when you giving me what I want inevitably causes a fire."

We should expect fires. We should expect more if we run spark generating machines through the forest. That's fine. Just raise the rates to cover the insurance cost.

Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by 9HZZRfNlpR on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @03:24AM (#21200874)
I wonder if because of all these forest fires in California the people living there have a huge co2 footprint? Since it's electric lines causing the fire, it can be seen as human made for sure.
Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by diafygi on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @07:35AM (#21202147)
Forest fires don't have much of a carbon footprint because all the carbon (e.g. vegetation) is already part of the carbon cycle.

Your carbon footprint is determined by how much carbon you're adding (e.g. burning gas that was previously sequestered deep underground) to the carbon cycle.

I suppose if a bunch of plastic got burned in the forest fire, that would technically be adding a carbon footprint, but it's likely negligible.

Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by 9HZZRfNlpR on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @01:27PM (#21205512)
Forest fire still releases massive amount at once. Takes 50 yrs to grow back and even then who guarantees its the right amount you have released because of human activity caused fires.
Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by thrax on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:54AM (#21201619)
The connection you are trying to make is somewhat unclear. Yes, forest dwellers probably have a higher carbon footprint, but probably not much more than a wealthy city dweller. People living in the forests actually reduce the near term impact of forest fires because people don't like their stuff burning up, so they have fires put out which reduces carbon in the short term, but in the long term creates conditions for devastating megafires.
Re:PG&E to cut power to 800k customers across California ear... by 9HZZRfNlpR on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @06:43AM (#21201840)
I was more thinking about some of the fires that got international attention and as I understood it was because lines often short out causing fires. I don't live in America so I wasn't trying to make a connection between homeless people if that's what you thought, if anything I blamed the modern city person because they use and consume the electricity so it counts as their co2 impact.