After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the Show from the Web

Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by thrower123 on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @08:27AM (#21191465)

National Socialism was state capitalism. The CCP's control of their corporations and conglomerates is almost like they took Speer's notebooks and followed them to the letter. It's possible that Krupp and IG Farben and Messerschmitt were able to wag the dog a little more than their Chinese equivalents, but the resemblances are striking.

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by atomi on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @09:54AM (#21192312)

You could make the argument that the bigger problem, still, is China's lack of political diversity. One party has supreme control.

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by kentrado on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @10:10AM (#21192487)

If the workers can't control the means of production, it is not socialism.

Socialism calls for the democracy of the workplace.

What China has done is replace the authoritarian bourgeois with an authoritarian government.

Just because North Korea's name is Democratic People's Republic of Korea doesn't mean it is democratic. Naming stuff their opposite doesn't make it so, but I'll admit it has been pretty effective for convincing people who don't know the true definition.

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by DuskStar on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:55AM (#21193642)

I'm confused - are you trying to say that the Nazis weren't socialist and so can't be compared to China, or that China isn't socialist and so can't be compared to the Nazis?

Or just that we shouldn't use the word "socialism" in conjunction with either, despite that being the name of one of the groups in question?

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by kentrado on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @01:29PM (#21194708)

Would you use the word democratic to describe North Korea, despite that being the name of the country?

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by DuskStar on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @01:48PM (#21194927)

No, but by your standards 'Socialist' describes Nazi Germany approximately as well as it does China.

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by kentrado on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @03:17PM (#21196013)

I think you are misunderstanding what I said.

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by DuskStar on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @07:04PM (#21198252)

> Socialism calls for the democracy of the workplace.

> What China has done is replace the authoritarian bourgeois with an authoritarian government.

In other words, China is not Socialist. Presumably, neither was the National Socialist German Workers Party while it was in control of the country.

The question then becomes, why is this relevant. Why say "that's not true Socialism!" in response to someone comparing Nazi Germany with China, when neither was Socialist?

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Re:After 'South Park' Censorship Episode, China Deleted the ... by kentrado on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @03:12AM (#21200820)

Then it is I who misunderstood. No biggie, everyone makes mistakes. Just ignore my comment and carry on.

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