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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by mch82 on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @04:33AM (#21190017)
Consider installing a screenreader and the Lynx web browser so you can demonstrate what it’s like to access internal apps/websites with those tools. It might help to record your experience so people can watch the demo at their convenience.

Lynx... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_%28web_browser%29?wprov...

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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by akavi on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @08:46AM (#21191627)
What does lynx have to do with anything? No blind person I know browses the internet without JS, and every major screen reader supports it.
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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by mwcampbell on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @08:55AM (#21191706)
You're absolutely right. Aside from a few stubborn hold-outs, the blind people I know stopped browsing with Lynx, or Links or w3m, in the early 2000s at the latest.
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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by VBprogrammer on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:44AM (#21193512)
I have no experience at all with screen readers. Is there a modern FOSS screen reader that would help give an idea of what a visually impaired user would realistically experience?
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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by dbjorge on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:57AM (#21193659)
The most popular FOSS screen reader by a very, very large margin is NVDA (https://www.nvaccess.org). It is Windows specific, though.
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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by mwcampbell on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:32PM (#21194063)
There's also the Orca screen reader for GNOME. And I believe TalkBack for Android and ChromeVox for Chrome OS are both open source.

If you don't care so much about open source, as I said elsewhere on the thread, Mac has VoiceOver built in (Command+F5 to enable), and Windows has Narrator (Control+Windows+Enter to enable on recent versions).

Disclosure: I'm a dev on the Narrator team at Microsoft, but I'm posting on my own behalf here.

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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by mch82 on Thursday October 10, 2019 @06:03AM (#21212675)
@Zeldman tweeted this screen reader survey, which includes free/non-free options plus lots of usage data... https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey8/

Edit: source tweet is https://twitter.com/zeldman/status/1180100942131277824

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Re:Supreme Court allows blind people to sue retailers if web... by Scoundreller on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:30AM (#21193370)
Not blind, but an HN and lynx story. I sometimes use lynx these days because Canadian telecoms have shitty mobile bandwidth plans.

Lynx would always think I was making an NNTP connection to news.ycombinator.com unless I put in the HTTP://

Slipped me up every time.

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