Re:Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong
by munchbunny on Monday October 07, 2019 @06:21PM
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Is it? It's not like if you lose your job when you're on an H1B they send you to the suicide booth. You just end up back in your old country, but with a much better resume. Yes, life is harder than it was in the United States, but you start again.
Well, depends on what you're going back to. Say it's China, and you morally disagree with a lot more of the Chinese tech industry's politics than you do the US's. Is it worth taking the one particular stand here to lose the long game?
Obviously I'm specifically crafting counterexamples, but the point I'm trying to get across is that it's not purely a matter of courage of conviction.
In your case, good for you - you went further than most would. I would not have held that particular line. If that was the choice I would have to make, I would start to look for a new job at that moment, not to quit.
Reeking of privilege here. "I got born in a developed country, life goes on ".
So you were lucky. Not everyone will have the same luck.
Re:Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong
by DangitBobby on Monday October 07, 2019 @05:03PM
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Many people talk big game about morals and ethics, but when the chips are down, they will happily forget all that if they have to sacrifice even the smallest amount of comfort. Good for you. Seriously.
It is not obviously better to value ethics over family and community. I certainly wouldn't blame someone for putting their family's wellbeing (deportation can be traumatic) over quitting a place that's doing unethical things.
You might be a gay immigrant from a country that oppresses gay people. You might have a partner here, or friends, or family, or community.
Bring forced to move to a different community is always bad. The fact that states often force you to do it is a big reason I am an anarchist.
I had neither. I took menial temp jobs and short-term manual labor jobs for a while until I could get something full-time in my field. Took about six months the first time, and nine months the second time.
Getting deported because of your H1B would be an example of "doesn't have a safety net".
Is it? It's not like if you lose your job when you're on an H1B they send you to the suicide booth. You just end up back in your old country, but with a much better resume. Yes, life is harder than it was in the United States, but you start again.
That's what people do — they get back up when they're knocked down. I've done it four times now. Losing an H1B is not the end of someone's life.