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Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by kellenmurphy on Monday October 07, 2019 @01:32PM (#21183584)
"Uncompromising" and "friendly" are not terms that one typically finds together.
Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by jordigh on Monday October 07, 2019 @01:35PM (#21183617)
We can be friendly without having to compromise freedom. We don't have to be friendly to those who would want to use our software to take freedom away from others. We should be friendly to everyone who wants to use our software freely, regardless of their skill level.

My view is that GNU should be working towards making sure we can get our software into as many people as possible by giving it an attractive interface, simple installation instructions, and a welcoming community, while at the same time refusing to collaborate with any who wish to proliferate non-free software.

Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by DuskStar on Monday October 07, 2019 @02:13PM (#21184132)
> We don't have to be friendly to those who would want to use our software to take freedom away from others. We should be friendly to everyone who wants to use our software freely, regardless of their skill level.

"We should be friendly, unless we don't like the people using our software"

Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by shadowgovt on Monday October 07, 2019 @02:52PM (#21184564)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

In the specific case of free software, the paradox of tolerance plays out concretely, in that failure to enforce copyleft on software can lead to the creation of software derived from that work that is itself copyrighted in such a way that the deriver could sue an original source creator deriving work from their derivations.

I don't think anyone would consider copyleft enforcement "friendly," but the alternative is "free software has no ability to protect its core tenants," so some friendliness must be abridged.

Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by DuskStar on Monday October 07, 2019 @03:34PM (#21185035)
I agree that enforcing copyleft licenses is extremely necessary. My thought here was that "those who would want to use our software to take freedom away from others" is a bit too broad to apply to just that, especially when considering things like the recent Chef outage.

In other words - some people are going to use GNU software to take freedom from others (imagine a prison running Linux, etc) in ways that conform with the license. I do not think GNU should oppose this.

Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by virgilp on Monday October 07, 2019 @01:56PM (#21183907)
RMS no longer fits your definition?
Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by wott on Monday October 07, 2019 @02:13PM (#21184134)
And your first friendly act is to 'friendly' take control of the organisation someone else built to host you. That opens a whole perspective of refreshing friendlyism.
Re:Joint Statement on the GNU Project by shadowgovt on Monday October 07, 2019 @02:36PM (#21184397)
"Organizations" are a two-way street. A leader with no followers isn't "an organization;" it's just another solo project on Github.