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Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by dev_dull on Monday October 07, 2019 @11:23AM (#21181916)
Kind of like how people say “then unhappy amazon employees should simply find another job”?
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by Buge on Monday October 07, 2019 @11:36AM (#21182108)
I don't see how it's that similar. Employees getting a new job is often very difficult, so would create a lot of difficulty for a lot of people. Whereas Amazon raising their prices by a few cents shouldn't be much work.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by mikelyons on Monday October 07, 2019 @01:47PM (#21183795)
It's not about the difficulty of raising prices, it's about the impact to the bottom line profit to shareholders when a few cents is extrapolated over a billion transactions.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by Buge on Monday October 07, 2019 @02:33PM (#21184359)
The percent impact would be negligible, I expect lower than daily fluctuation. Anyway, the law isn't just designed to protect shareholders, it's designed to protect everyone.

If someone can make money by fraud, that money is not justification to allow fraud. The US economy relies on dependable contacts.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by Supermancho on Monday October 07, 2019 @03:10PM (#21184761)
> Anyway, the law isn't just designed to protect shareholders,

Which law? "The Law" as an ideal, is impartial. That's irrelevant. In practice, applied law (and the cousin enforced law) leads to biased results, favoring the wealthy and the status quo while remaining "impartial".

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by Buge on Monday October 07, 2019 @09:47PM (#21187893)
Ok, then "the law shouldn't be just designed".

We shouldn't let a defeatist attitude discourage attempts at improvement.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by Supermancho on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @11:50PM (#21266893)
Nor should we pretend "the law" is perfect in application and outcome...or why would anyone try to improve it?
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by uoaei on Monday October 07, 2019 @03:41PM (#21185113)
Percent impact is non-negligible when you consider the impatience of the average consumer.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by Buge on Monday October 07, 2019 @09:38PM (#21187857)
I was thinking Amazon would raise prices slightly, not make stuff slower.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by DangitBobby on Monday October 07, 2019 @11:34AM (#21182084)
Damn, yeah, I guess these guys should really be asking their new employer if they'll be subject to wage theft before they get hired.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by mikelyons on Monday October 07, 2019 @01:46PM (#21183773)
Or just a̶s̶s̶u̶m̶e̶ be vigilant about it, corporations are amoral profit machines and have no incentive to care about replaceable workers.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by jonfw on Monday October 07, 2019 @02:40PM (#21184430)
I have no incentive to care about the grocery store I frequent, but it is still illegal for me to steal from them and I can expect to be held accountable by the government in the event that I do steal from them.

I'm very libertarian- but at the end of the day I will always support the government authority to punish theft. And a failure to pay employees the agreed upon rate is theft.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by mikelyons on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:24PM (#21187060)
You're neglecting to consider that you have to be caught.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by bigj0n on Monday October 07, 2019 @09:03PM (#21187661)
Amazon was just being tried in court.

This isnt about being caught- the evidence is clear as day and was presented in court.

This is about a failure of our legal system to protect basic rights of a laborer to be paid the agreed upon rate.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by mikelyons on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:42AM (#21188834)
He was talking about their next job ...
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by gerbilly on Monday October 07, 2019 @11:40AM (#21182156)
There's a huge imbalance of power between the company and an individual worker. So it's "kind of" not the same at all.

Why are people so quick to defend the powerful?

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by kazagistar on Monday October 07, 2019 @11:52AM (#21182321)
This is the site of a tech investment company. Its full of the rich and powerful who are protecting themselves.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by eropple on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:41PM (#21182901)
Aspiring rich and powerful. Most people here (myself very much included) remain part of the precariat, and the fangs-out defense of the rich and powerful is most frequently done by those who, in the end, may manage to not lose but likely will not win.

John Steinbeck wasn't wrong.

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by 4ntonius8lock on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:50PM (#21183020)
Human beings are tribal creatures, not individualists.

As such, we have leaders and followers.

By definition of leaders and followers, most people will be followers, whether for genetic or environmental reasons.

Followers will always support those who are leaders. In our current society, that would mean the powerful.

If you don't believe me, look at behavioral sciences. Most people will shock someone to death just because an authority said so (yes the Millgram experiments were biased, but the results aren't completely invalidated by that)

Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by ummonk on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:05PM (#21182489)
If Amazon sends you a different product, or charges your credit card more than the claimed price, do you just simply find another retailer, or do you demand a refund?
Re:U.S. Supreme Court rejects Amazon warehouse worker wage a... by slothtrop on Monday October 07, 2019 @11:25AM (#21181940)
let's head over to the job tree, what sort of bullshit dropping to the ground today?