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Re:The privacy trade-offs of cheap Android smartphones by Jonnax on Monday October 07, 2019 @05:08AM (#21178807)
Yeah. People know how to download a random file off the internet and execute it. That's not being smart.

Malware is more sophisticated today.

A lot of "tech savvy" people download random ROMs off XDA developers and then enter their bank details into apps.

Also rooting is breaking the security model of the device which is also a dumb thing to do.

Re:The privacy trade-offs of cheap Android smartphones by deogeo on Monday October 07, 2019 @05:52AM (#21179054)
> Also rooting is breaking the security model of the device which is also a dumb thing to do.

More often than not, that's security against the user, not for.

Re:The privacy trade-offs of cheap Android smartphones by Jonnax on Monday October 07, 2019 @06:01AM (#21179104)
Sure sure.

But if you were handed either a Samsung note or a Windows laptop that belonged to someone else. Where you wanted to quickly sign into your bank account.

What would you feel more comfortable to use?

Arguments of user freedom also includes malware freedom. And for the average user who just wants to consume, that's a decent tradeoff.

Re:The privacy trade-offs of cheap Android smartphones by deogeo on Monday October 07, 2019 @06:46AM (#21179331)
That's why there's tamper-evidence - my phone displays a message stating it's rooted on boot.

Getting the best of both security and user-freedom has already been done, but manufacturers prefer to lie that the choice is exclusive - that we can have security or freedom, but not both. And as the article clearly shows, they delivered neither.

Re:The privacy trade-offs of cheap Android smartphones by admax88q on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:01PM (#21182448)
I really wish we'd optimize for me owning my device rather than me entering my bank details on someone else's device.

One of these use cases is a lot more important than the other.