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Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by corysama on Sunday October 06, 2019 @08:28PM (#21176197)
I heard a story recently about that being exploited as an attack.

Attackers knew some site used some DB that used a specific hash and items that hash to the same value end up in a linked list. So, the submitted a ton of user data that all hashed to the same value then DOS’d with requests that ran through the whole linked list every time.

Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by im3w1l on Sunday October 06, 2019 @08:44PM (#21176285)
It's called an algorithmic complexity attack, and yeah it's a known issue with hashmaps. One solution is to us a parametrized hash function with a secret key. And a second is to use another data structure entirely.
Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by baby on Sunday October 06, 2019 @09:56PM (#21176658)
It’s actually called a hashmap collision attack, fixed by randomizing your hash function at the program start. For example generating a key at program start that will be used with siphash.
Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by pbsd on Sunday October 06, 2019 @11:35PM (#21177144)
Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by baby on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:58PM (#21183134)
Also called a hash flooding attack. I like hashmap collision though.
Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by rurban on Monday October 07, 2019 @04:09AM (#21178515)
Not fixed by a random seed and not fixed by siphash. Only fixable by not allowing a linear search in the collisions. (counting or promote to a tree)

The random seed can by extracted, exposed or calculated, and then siphash doesn't help you at all, it just makes everything 2x slower.

Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by baby on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:53PM (#21183067)
How do you extract/calculate The random seed?

This is what all (non-vulnerable) programming languages do btw.

PS: saw your other post, interesting take.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12401920

I’ll venture a guess: a lot of practical attacks in the lab becomes completely impractical on a network.

Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by minitech on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @06:03PM (#21208663)
I like how you’ve been saying for 3+ years that it’s possible to recover a SipHash key based on its output, something it’s specifically designed not to allow, but never given any evidence for it.
Re:A fast alternative to the modulo reduction (2016) by hinkley on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:19AM (#21177425)
It doesn’t even have to be that complicated. Query parameters for HTTP requests are almost always stuffed into a hash table. You can get up to mischief a couple of packets at a time.

If you’ve been watching, there have been a series of articles over the last five or so years as each language upgrades their hash table implementation to thwart this class of attack.