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Re:Chinese farmer 'studies law for 16 years' to defeat dumpi... by elliekelly on Sunday October 06, 2019 @06:07PM (#21175491)
> I think it's really fucked up that people have to study law. I'm expected to live by a complex set of rules that only a few understand well enough to reliably navigate, where any transgression might ruin the rest of my life?

Have you heard about the UpCodes suit?[1] No pressure on UpCodes or anything, but if they don't win forget trying to understand it, you might not even be able to read the law without paying a fee.

I take your point, it's scary that we're subject to so many rules and regulations that most of us are completely unaware of (and I say that as someone who has studied law) but imagine how much worse that will be if we aren't even able to freely read the rules in the first place?

[1] https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/09/can-the-law-be-copyrighted...

Re:Chinese farmer 'studies law for 16 years' to defeat dumpi... by anon1m0us on Sunday October 06, 2019 @06:25PM (#21175600)
As someone building his own house right now, I exactly understand the complexities here. It's outrageous. Many of the laws are counterproductive and the use of certain products is lobbied for by the companies making them.

Drywall, insulation, plumbing, electrical all these products work their way into the laws encoded in building codes. Many of the companies have members on the committees of these "non-profit" organizations.

It's terrible. It's part of the reason houses cost so much.

Everyone wants their piece of the pie. If you want to house yourself, first you must feed everyone else.

Re:Chinese farmer 'studies law for 16 years' to defeat dumpi... by toomanybeersies on Sunday October 06, 2019 @09:12PM (#21176445)
At the same time, we've seen the result of deregulation in New Zealand, which in part resulted in the Leaky Homes Crisis [1]. Developers tend to put profit first, if the house falls apart 10 years later it doesn't matter to the developer or the builder, they already made their money.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_homes_crisis

Re:Chinese farmer 'studies law for 16 years' to defeat dumpi... by DollarGuru on Sunday October 06, 2019 @07:34PM (#21175994)
A big flaw of modern society is the most experienced experts we rely on for industry regulations inevitably have a bias towards their industry.

Look in any industry and their regulating bodies and often it's a revolving door of key executives giving each other a slap on the wrist now and then and not effectively regulating or punishing clear wrongdoing.

Re:Chinese farmer 'studies law for 16 years' to defeat dumpi... by ClumsyPilot on Sunday October 06, 2019 @10:45PM (#21176878)
Holy shit, this is absolutely outrageous.