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Re:Tesla Model 3 represented over 15% of September new car s... by socialdemocrat on Sunday October 06, 2019 @10:31AM (#21172248)
ICE engines are around 20% efficiency I think, while e.g. a gas turbine in a power plant is around 60%. Very little efficiency is lost in transmission cables and in the electric motor, so it is definitely a lot more efficient to use electric cars as a way of burning fossil fuels.

Not to mention that coal plants and gas power plants can be changed to burn biomass or do gasification of biomass. That allows us to avoid fossil fuels entirely. You cannot easily run an internal combustion engine on biomass.

Sure you can produce ethanol or biodiesel from plants, but that is not as attractive as gasifying wood pellet. In particular because the latter does not compete with agricultural land.

Re:Tesla Model 3 represented over 15% of September new car s... by Someone on Sunday October 06, 2019 @12:01PM (#21172812)
”Very little efficiency is lost in transmission cables and in the electric motor”

It’s not that clear-cut. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car_energy_efficiency:

”Taking the conversion factor of 2.58 in France into account (see Embodied energy#Electricity), we would find an efficiency of about 0.5/2.58 or 19 %, which corresponds to the order of magnitude of the balance of the combustion vehicles, according to the diagram of the Department of energy (where the efficiency of combustion vehicles is less than 20%). By the way, according to the French energy agency (ADEME), the primary energy consumption of electric vehicles and combustion-powered ones would be approximately equivalent”

I think that even ignores the higher weight of electric cars. Because of that, I think it’s better for the world to buy a small ICE than to buy a Tesla (for the local environment, things are different)

Re:Tesla Model 3 represented over 15% of September new car s... by ericd on Sunday October 06, 2019 @12:53PM (#21173178)
The French electric grid is predominantly nuclear, so whatever the transmission losses, the EV will be near zero CO2 output.
Re:Tesla Model 3 represented over 15% of September new car s... by merpnderp on Sunday October 06, 2019 @03:36PM (#21174482)
Nuclear is how you spell winning in French. Clean green limitless power.
Re:Tesla Model 3 represented over 15% of September new car s... by purple_ducks on Sunday October 06, 2019 @06:55PM (#21175797)
Until it fails and the surrounding environment and people are destroyed for generations.
Re:Tesla Model 3 represented over 15% of September new car s... by de_watcher on Monday October 07, 2019 @04:16AM (#21178542)
That's why they're building ITER.
Re:Tesla Model 3 represented over 15% of September new car s... by rlpb on Sunday October 06, 2019 @10:44AM (#21172334)
You also have to consider the efficiency of the battery of an electric vehicle, though it may well still turn out to be more efficient as you claim.