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Re:Was WeWork Ever Going to Work? by CPLX on Saturday October 05, 2019 @11:19AM (#21165996)
Uber wasn’t really what transformed the world, it was just an emergent property.

What changed taxi transportation was ubiquitous personal computers with detailed screens, network connectivity, and GPS in literally everyone’s pocket.

As soon as it was technically possible to press a button on a portable device you already have and see a little car coming towards you on a map, hundreds of startup founders were going to try to do it, and did.

Before that something like Uber was impossible, after that it was inevitable. Just like something like YouTube and something like Netflix were inevitable.

That’s not to discount the very impressive work it takes to be the winner in such a fast moving market. But it’s not reasonable to credit them with the world transforming innovation, it was just the next logical step in an ongoing progression.

Re:Was WeWork Ever Going to Work? by harryh on Saturday October 05, 2019 @11:37AM (#21166110)
Did smartphones transform the world or were they just an emergent property of improved touchscreen and battery technology?

Like...I get what you are saying and I agree that something like Uber was inevitable. But someone still has to go out and do it.

Re:Was WeWork Ever Going to Work? by bhouston on Saturday October 05, 2019 @03:13PM (#21167341)
Every big business idea in inevitable in it's time. The trick is being first to grow large and take the market. Often people try out the exact same ideas but they are too soon so they run into problems. Timing matters so much as well as the ability to raise money when it is a big idea

Your argument means no business success deserves any credit, they all just inevitable .

Re:Was WeWork Ever Going to Work? by CPLX on Saturday October 05, 2019 @03:41PM (#21167489)
Nah. Some businesses are genuinely innovative from a technical or structural standpoint.

Ford comes to mind, or Google. They had very strong competitive advantages due to a technically superior process or product. Cars and search engines were probably inevitable, but Ford and Google moved the technology forward a whole generation.

Uber made a pretty rudimentary mobile application, their real competitive advantage had more to do with success in financial sophistication and compliance/regulatory avoidance.

Re:Was WeWork Ever Going to Work? by bhouston on Saturday October 05, 2019 @04:39PM (#21167797)
Google is just AltaVista with a slightly better algorithm. It wasn't the first search engine nor the first to offer ads on search or on the web. It just won the market and it was just as inevitable as Uber is. I even know a guy who was analyzing backlinks to rank search results before Google's PageRank paper.

I do not know the context of Ford.

Re:Was WeWork Ever Going to Work? by wpietri on Saturday October 05, 2019 @07:55PM (#21168792)
That's far from true. Did you actually use pre-Google search engines? Google was a huge step forward in user experience. And I think they achieved that through significant innovation not just in algorithms, but in using commodity hardware and ops innovations to greatly increase the amount of computation they could use for a given search. And they didn't just have one clever idea; they built an organization that could keep having and applying clever ideas.

But it was also innovative in business terms. Search at the time was monetized like media properties: running a lot of ads that were at best tangential to what users were doing. They instead recognized that a lot of search wasn't great for monetization, but some of it -- where users were looking for something that could be purchased -- was very valuable. So instead of banner ads and all that nonsense, the ended up with AdWords. And instead of selling it via media sales execs, they made a self-serve bidding platform.

If Google had just had a slightly better algorithm, any of the better funded players could have taken them down. But Microsoft has been trying for years to break in and Google still has 90% of the market.

Re:Was WeWork Ever Going to Work? by bhouston on Sunday October 06, 2019 @02:12PM (#21173734)
Goto.com did keyword ads well before Google. I think you are just forgetting history to make Google seem super unique.