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Re:Cars All but Banned on One of Manhattan’s Busiest Streets by adrianN on Saturday October 05, 2019 @02:40AM (#21164148)
I think this is the case because in the US only extreme cyclists dare use the road at all. When cycling becomes sufficiently safe that normal people do it, the median cyclist becomes much friendlier to other people on the road.
Re:Cars All but Banned on One of Manhattan’s Busiest Streets by tvphan on Saturday October 05, 2019 @05:01AM (#21164488)
I think that's just wishful thinking. I'm from Melbourne where cycling is pretty common (although not as hectic as in Holland). The cyclists here are still pretty rude.
Re:Cars All but Banned on One of Manhattan’s Busiest Streets by alisonatwork on Saturday October 05, 2019 @06:16AM (#21164739)
There's a difference between rude and illegal. I think the original commenter was speaking more about illegal behavior leading to accidents.

In my experience in cities where cycling is built into the architecture of the city, most do tend to follow the road rules. However, a pedestrian might still find it rude if a cyclist were to pass close enough to brush shoulders, or a driver might find it rude for a cyclist to lane split.

From my perspective that kind of "rudeness" is just part city life, though, it's not really something exclusive to cyclists.

Re:Cars All but Banned on One of Manhattan’s Busiest Streets by cblum on Saturday October 05, 2019 @02:15PM (#21167029)
Yeah, I was referring to outright illegal behavior. I really dislike the "rules don't apply to me" attitude - seems so entitled.

On the rudeness aspect though, I do find cyclists in general pretty rude. I've even seen cyclists that seem to outright seek confrontation by putting themselves in situations that are unfavorable to them. For example, the other day I observed a challenging traffic situation and a driver had to stop mid turn at a corner. A cyclist was coming and saw the whole thing happen, but they still positioned themselves such that a "hook" accident could occur once things started moving again. As soon as the car started moving to complete their turn, the cyclist also moved forward and started arguing with the driver. It looked pretty clearly premeditated.

Re:Cars All but Banned on One of Manhattan’s Busiest Streets by rightbyte on Saturday October 05, 2019 @06:09AM (#21164720)
No, where bicycles are common I feel the same thing. It not an "extremist" issue.

Bicyclist has their kid mindset of rules not applying to them, I believe. Also they go closer to pedastrians than they would with a car.

It maybe just that bicycles are not that good in dense cities. In my small home town there was enough space for both bicycles and pedestrians.