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Re:Google Cloud Worth $225B, Deutsche Bank Says by ztratar on Friday October 04, 2019 @12:46PM (#21159464)
Softbank != "the big banks"

The public markets did what they were supposed to do to WeWork.

Re:Google Cloud Worth $225B, Deutsche Bank Says by rrss on Friday October 04, 2019 @12:52PM (#21159507)
Goldman Sachs = the big banks

IIRC Goldman valued WeWork at $60B

Re:Google Cloud Worth $225B, Deutsche Bank Says by rurp on Friday October 04, 2019 @01:32PM (#21159922)
Goldman valued WeWork at $60B, as part of their sales pitch to lead the IPO. The context makes all the difference since the point of that valuation was to aid a sales pitch, not be an accurate assessment.
Re:Google Cloud Worth $225B, Deutsche Bank Says by racino84 on Friday October 04, 2019 @06:18PM (#21162385)
This is incorrect. They pitched this at $60b but couldn't get a bookbuild at that price which never happens.

The key distinction with pitching to lead to the IPO is they sought to find investors (as opposed to wework management) at this price too, but not enough people bit to fill the raise.

Re:Google Cloud Worth $225B, Deutsche Bank Says by thrower123 on Friday October 04, 2019 @01:08PM (#21159681)
Softbank and WeWork reminds me painfully of the episode of Entourage I watched last night, where the boys are pitching their as-yet unseen prestige film at Cannes. Hyped to the extreme, on the verge of pulling a deal to make a boatload of money, but on closer inspection it's a huge stinker that falls apart disastrously.
Re:Google Cloud Worth $225B, Deutsche Bank Says by olivermarks on Friday October 04, 2019 @12:49PM (#21159488)
To be fair it was the weWork ipo roadshow banks that came up with that fantastic number
Re:Google Cloud Worth $225B, Deutsche Bank Says by beering on Friday October 04, 2019 @01:07PM (#21159671)
Matt Levine made the point that to get chosen as one of the IPO banks, you had to pitch to WeWork that you could get them a good-yet-plausible valuation. I.e., take what their last (private) valuation was, and bump it up by a decent amount. Once you're selected, of course, then reality can take over.