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Re:The rise of the financial machines by nightski on Friday October 04, 2019 @12:04PM (#21158970)
A few players using them effectively is different than 30-60% of the market being run by algorithms. Granted I can't read much of the article because it is behind a paywall which seems to be very common on HN.
Re:The rise of the financial machines by pmart123 on Friday October 04, 2019 @01:03PM (#21159628)
You have to account for the fact that a lot of the algorithmic volume is due to ETF arbitrage. We now have more ETFs than stocks in the US by a wide margin, and each new ETF likely creates another trading opportunity. There are also a lot of factor and smart beta strategies now, which I would classify as more systematic, but these could distort the market more than arb strategies.
Re:The rise of the financial machines by cmroanirgo on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:28PM (#21163259)
Not disagreeing with you, but the arbitrage generally lasts only for a few ms, which makes the article's comment incorrect:

"Visit a trading floor today and you will hear the hum of servers"

In my experience, the machines doing the actual trades are as close as possible to the exchange, generally inside. What's in the trading floor are the client and ML programs that issue the strategies. That said, I've been away from the industry for a few years and it might have changed.

Re:The rise of the financial machines by thedudeabides5 on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:29PM (#21163038)
relevant

weak human + machine > machine > strong human

https://curatedintelligence.com/2017/10/20/kasparovs-law/

Re:The rise of the financial machines by jeffshek on Friday October 04, 2019 @09:20PM (#21163228)
But strong machine > all?

IE. Chess / Go / Dota 2

Re:The rise of the financial machines by thedudeabides5 on Friday October 04, 2019 @11:58PM (#21163719)
lol, no, that's the point.

A better machine is just a tool.

One that someone who's smarter than you is going to use to win at the game of poker.

Hence Kasparov's law. You know, the chess guy.

Re:The rise of the financial machines by reedwolf on Saturday October 05, 2019 @03:05AM (#21164195)
>A better machine is just a tool

For now.

Re:The rise of the financial machines by bduerst on Friday October 04, 2019 @02:30PM (#21160478)
>Granted I can't read much of the article because it is behind a paywall which seems to be very common on HN.

https://outline.com/nGrnKy

Re:The rise of the financial machines by nyolfen on Friday October 04, 2019 @06:55PM (#21162570)
Re:The rise of the financial machines by rosege on Saturday October 05, 2019 @08:46AM (#21165200)
Thanks this looks good