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Re:Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget moto... by brudgers on Friday October 04, 2019 @10:48AM (#21158248)
Bicyclists suffer political disability under [typical US] traffic laws. Bicyclists are not afforded a full traffic lane when traveling. Bicyclists are prohibited from the highest quality roads. Bicyclists are required to ride on the shoulder. Even the best laid bike lanes don't give cyclists the right of way. Many many bike routes are shared with pedestrians.

Motorcyclists on the other hand enjoy first class status under typical traffic laws.

Re:Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget moto... by egypturnash on Friday October 04, 2019 @02:25PM (#21160433)
I think the rules of the road everywhere I’ve lived in the US (New Orleans, Los Angeles, Boston, and Seattle) has encouraged cyclists taking a lane rather than riding on the shoulder. I’ve seen more and more bike signs right in the middle of the right lane of traffic, too.

That said once night falls I usually adopt the attitude of “assume cars will try to kill me if they see me” and avoid them as much as possible by keeping to back roads and being extra paranoid when I have to cross major streets, despite having extra lights on my bike.

Re:Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget moto... by godelski on Friday October 04, 2019 @03:53PM (#21161293)
> Bicyclists are required to ride on the shoulder

Where all the dirt and glass accumulate. Where cars pull over (even if not allowed). Where parked vehicles open doors without looking.

Re:Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget moto... by loeg on Friday October 04, 2019 @03:00PM (#21160812)
> Bicyclists suffer political disability under [typical US] traffic laws.

Yes, but,

> Bicyclists are not afforded a full traffic lane when traveling. Bicyclists are prohibited from the highest quality roads. Bicyclists are required to ride on the shoulder.

This isn't true anywhere I've lived in the US.

Re:Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget moto... by taneq on Friday October 04, 2019 @08:50PM (#21163131)
Really? Bikes are allowed to ride on freeways where you live, actually out in traffic?
Re:Lethal memory fail: Why drivers see, and then forget moto... by loeg on Saturday October 05, 2019 @01:45AM (#21164019)
I never said bikes were allowed on freeways.