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Re:Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired? by geekbird on Thursday October 03, 2019 @02:52PM (#21150635)
Presence based management, colloquially known as "Butts in Seats Management", is the opposite of results oriented management, IMO.

I hate it when a company says it's "results oriented", but turns out to be mostly "butts in seats" that demands results, too.

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Re:Ask HN: Who Wants to Be Fired? by MagnumOpus on Friday October 04, 2019 @03:17PM (#21160960)
It might be an unpopular opinion, but once you are on $250k+ a year like most of the readers here, it is reasonable of the employer to demand both your butt in a seat and results.

I my personal experience the guy who turned up at 8am and started getting shit done, always was far more productive (and indeed ended up a much better coder very quickly) than the “judge me by results not hours” guy turning up at 9:45. Even despite the latter guy being smart and more experienced.

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