Wolves and coyotes don't have supermarkets. We have a choice to not act like wild animals.

Animals also murder their own kind, can be cannibalistic and worse. Is it okay to do those things too because they happen in nature?

We shouldn't (and don't) based our morals and behaviours on wild animals.

Where do you think supermarkets get food ?

This is the disconnect so many people have.

The point was we can live long and healthy lives by going to the supermarket and buying non-meat food. We can survive now without making animals needlessly suffer (including paying others to kill animals on our behalf).

Some carnivorous wild animals have no choice but to hunt and eat prey alive to survive. We have a choice.

I choose to eat animals. You choose to eat plants.

Question is why do you want plants to taste like animals and it was answered. Some folks don’t like killing.

I don’t mind taking an animals life to eat. Therein lies the difference

> I don’t mind taking an animals life to eat. Therein lies the difference

Can I ask if you'd be okay with killing all the animals you eat yourself?

If you wouldn't be prepared to do the killing yourself, why?

Yes. I grew up on a farm. I used to hunt. I can raise slaughter clean and process animals.

I have always been close to my food source and I think that is why I find this disconnect people have interesting.

My wife can’t eat out of the garden because she sees the shit on the plants and the bugs that crawl all over them. She doesn’t have a problem with store veggies though :)

So because nature does it, we should do it too?

You are a part of nature.