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Re:Ackermann Steering Geometry by giardini on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @10:31PM (#21143009)
As a boy I'd always wanted a small car that I could drive. I pestered my father for years with plans from various magazines until one came up for a kart ("go-kart"). He got interested and bought some scrap mild steel. My job was to cut everything to fit and assemble it. We paid a welder to weld it.

But the steering geometry was the beautiful part. We knew about Ackerman's work and also about camber, caster and toe-in/out but had never done any design. So I had to read up on steering design/geometry. I already had a strong interest in auto sports. My geometry class turned out to be quite useful. FWIW on a kart with no suspension the geometry problems are simpler.

That kart is still in the family, still running and never had a structural failure. It's worn out a number of engines and been a blast for all involved.

http://yospeed.com/wheel-alignment-explained-camber-caster-t...

Re:Ackermann Steering Geometry by joshu on Thursday October 03, 2019 @05:09AM (#21145020)
a competition kart with a single solid rear axle has a different steering setup from the car. the wheels also dig into the ground to lift one of the rear tires up, which allows the cart to actually turn. otherwise they understeer under enough throttle.

when a car goes fast enough you actually want anti-ackermann. the slip angles and not the actual angles are what matter, and the inner wheel has a different load which means it needs to turn less rather than more in order to still grip.

Re:Ackermann Steering Geometry by giardini on Thursday October 03, 2019 @09:28PM (#21154037)
Our kart had a live rear axle with power to both wheels and slicks on the rear. Top speeds was < 60 mph so standard Ackerman geometry was fine.

On a track or flat parking lot you could throw the wheel hard left or right even at max speed with no controllability problem other than the aforementioned slight "washing out" if the surface was slick. It would go into a very nice predictable controlled slide.

I miss it! It was great training for later driving a car. I never had the urge to do anything foolish in an automobile b/c the kart was always far, far more exciting. Driving a car was dull in comparison.

Re:Ackermann Steering Geometry by joshu on Saturday October 05, 2019 @01:28AM (#21163984)
shifter karts are faster, but the one i modified for a project only did 60mph. you still needed to lean. you were probably still seeing a great deal of slip.

take a look at the steering on a pro kart - the wheels are deeply angled around the kingpin and dig into the ground.