Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by sjg007 on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @07:28PM
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Teachers should just work their contractual hours. Now that would be a protest!
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Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by mattbreeden on Thursday October 03, 2019 @01:07AM
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Part of my wife's contract includes wording like 'any duties', so they can add as much arbitrary work as they want
"and other duties as assigned" is pretty common contractual verbiage nowadays it seems
google "work to rule"
I'm somewhat baffled as to why "work to rule" is considered a sort of strike or protest.
If two parties have already agreed that one will perform a certain amount of work and another will pay a certain amount of money, it is unreasonable for either side to demand more than what the other side agreed to.
A contract becomes meaningless if one side can arbitrarily adjust the terms.
The massive power imbalance between employer and employee is the main factor here and the driving motivation for labor unions.
Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by randogogogo on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @11:36PM
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So much more than that even, so many are teachers must feel compelled to do what they must for the sake of their students. I know it's incidental, but the extra effort I see my own kids' teachers putting in without financial incentive is incredible. Education is a business where a lot of "employees" probably aren't doing the calculations around their pay-per-hour but rather are focused on the accomplishing the things necessary for their students success.
Maybe that's a long winded way of saying that I suspect a lot of teachers are bleeding hearts and do not closely manager their time or monetary budgets closely.
Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @11:30PM
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It's not about one side arbitrarily adjusting the terms; it's about both sides realizing that they have a shared interest in keeping the organization running. It's just not feasible to write an employment contract that fully encompasses the work needing to get done.
Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by learnstats2 on Thursday October 03, 2019 @03:18AM
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If you are not sure in advance what you are going to want teachers to do, then this might just be an excuse to exploit them.
Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by SpicyLemonZest on Thursday October 03, 2019 @11:26AM
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Ensuring that a class gets taught well isn't just a matter of standing up in front of them from 8 to 3; any teacher can tell you about the amount of random surprise work that needs to get done at a school. You can call that work exploitation if you want, but the bottom line is still that someone has to do it.
Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by learnstats2 on Thursday October 03, 2019 @06:29PM
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Again: you're asking a teacher to cover roles other than teaching.
That's not good for anyone.
Feasible for whom?
Re:The myth of the teacher pay gap?
by SpicyLemonZest on Thursday October 03, 2019 @11:30AM
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For anyone, which is why work to rule strikes are such a well-known concept. Nobody in any industry can do it.
It represents the dichotomy between contracted work and what it actually take to do the job.