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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:43PM (#21132435)
Education is not a zero-sum game.
Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by WillPostForFood on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:51PM (#21132793)
College admissions are zero-sum
Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:57PM (#21132821)
Not if we keep building colleges, no.
Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by legostormtroopr on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @10:18PM (#21132910)
Except there is only one Harvard University. You could spend billions making a new University next door that has just as high standard of teachers and facilities, but it wouldn't be Harvard.

Not that being "Harvard" would make it better, but to a lot of people the prestige of the name is important.

So to that effect, it is a zero sum game.

Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @10:34PM (#21133000)
Does Harvard maintain that lauded reputation if it's known to admit a racial monoculture? Especially in, say, the technology fields, where we've seen the negative impact of such monoculture in the quality of software developed using machine learning algorithms?
Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by paggle on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @03:42AM (#21134158)
All of the biggest software companies have almost no black engineers and relatively few female engineers. They still manage to make money hand over fist, looks like their software is good enough to do the job.
Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by shadowgovt on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @09:13AM (#21136007)
So you're satisfied with "makes money, but has known biases against people's inborn traits."

In general, we is a society (in America at least) have decided that's not good enough. It hasn't been good enough since the time there was one facility for the whites and one facility for the coloreds.

Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by rohit2412 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @10:25PM (#21132944)
So it's either 1) accept affirmative action and we'll increase spending on education, or 2) reject affirmative action and we would spend this money somewhere else (maybe whatever else gets the votes)?
Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by ummonk on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:37AM (#21133467)
How do we magically give new colleges Harvard-level endowments?
Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by mlevental on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @08:18AM (#21135573)
> my ancestors were not oppressing either latinos or Africans. I'll make my voice heard by not voting for Democrats.

so I guess you're making up for lost time? or setting the precedent for your own progeny? because I'm like 100% sure that during the era of slavery the same arguments were made by slavers - "my ancestors didn't participate in the crusades so I'm morally absolved..."

Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by wavefunction on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @08:35PM (#21132393)
This Judge was confirmed by the Senate which has been in Republican hands for some time.

You should go start your own Harvard and you can exclude or admit anyone you want.

Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by koolba on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @09:13PM (#21132607)
> This Judge was confirmed by the Senate which has been in Republican hands for some time.

The judge was appointed by President Obama and confirmed by a Democrat controlled Senate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allison_Dale_Burroughs

Federal judgeships are lifetime appointments so the current makeup of the Senate, short of impeaching her, has no relevance.