Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions Process

Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by slg on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:01PM (#21130590)

A lot of the responses here are talking about ethnicity or Jewish identity, but I think when it comes down to it, Jews are considered white mainly when other white people want to consider them as such.

I would bet that your average Ashkenazi Jew (it is worth noting there are multiple different Jewish ethnic groups) has more genetic commonality with an average person of Ukrainian descent than that Ukrainian person has with someone of Irish descent. So why are the Ukrainian and Irish person both white while the Jewish person isn't?

And also let's point out that there is no distinction for any other group of Middle Eastern people. They instead have to choose between being Asian, African, or European.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by xenihn on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:14PM (#21130738)

Arabs, Armenians, North Africans, and Persians are all considered white in the US.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by fortran77 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:55PM (#21131146)

Not according to many people on the Left. Congresswoman Tlaib, for example, identifies herself as a "Woman of Color" (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/429550-tlaib-people-hear-...).

My maternal grandparents were born in Gaza City, and Syria respectively. Grandmother was expelled Gaza in 1929, and the Syrian grandfather was expelled from Syria in 1927. Both families had been there for many generations, if not since Temple times.

When I'm in the United States, even though I am very dark, I am never considered a "Person of Color" solely because of my religion. Other people from the same places _are_ "Persons of Color" if their religion differs.

I'm darker than Ms. Tlaib if you want to get your colorimiters out.

It's 12:54 AM in Tel Aviv now, where I am. (I spend about half my time here and half in Silicon Valley).

However in the United States it's still Rosh Hashanah. I think it's a little unfair to have a discussion about Jews and affirmative action in the United States at a time when observant Jews will not be on-line.

Shanah Tovah.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by senderista on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @07:34PM (#21132047)

I have never seen a coherent definition of POC. It seems to be based entirely on political expediency.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by CMCDragonkai on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @12:13AM (#21133371)

And all the central asians who have turk geneology? Are they white as well?

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by slg on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:24PM (#21130857)

According to who? If you're referring to the census designations, Jews are considered white too which just goes to further underlines my point.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by xenihn on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:27PM (#21130887)

The government and thus US law.

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Re:Federal Judge Upholds Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions... by slg on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @05:59PM (#21131190)

Again, this further underlines how strange it is the Jews are separated out above when they are considered white according to things like the census. The numbers from the top comment would look a lot less scary to the average white person if Jews were lumped into that group.

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