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Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by tenaciousDaniel on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @11:42AM (#21126634)
I just don't see any historical evidence that superior weaponry always wins, whereas there are plenty of examples to the contrary. So I don't know why it's a "fact" that the dictator would still win.
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @03:07PM (#21129341)
The exceptions prove the rule, as well does the entirety of New World colonization.
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by enraged_camel on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:00PM (#21126912)
Except the US military doesn't just have superior weaponry. It also has superior training, superior discipline, superior logistics, superior intelligence, superior force projection capability, superior everything.

Unlike the Taliban or the Viet Cong, the US citizenry, even armed, would be like chaff.

edit: so many downvotes. I guess I hit a sore spot. I'm sorry the truth hurts, guys and gals. :)

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by tenaciousDaniel on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:24PM (#21127280)
I'm not disagreeing with you over the difference in skill/training/etc. The Viet Cong and Taliban are obviously superior than the average American citizen. But I doubt that their respective victories were because of their military prowess. They turned the battlefield into an un-winnable game by requiring the military to effectively destroy the country in order to win. By the time the superior military wins, there's very little value left. War isn't just a game of who has the bigger guns and better soldiers.

If we descend to such a state where an American president is (a) willing to completely annihilate the population, (b) can either bypass congress or get their approval to do so, and (c) can mobilize our military to perform the annihilation, then perhaps your point is correct.

I wouldn't exactly hold my breath on that.

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:28PM (#21127332)
> The Viet Cong and Taliban are obviously superior than the average American citizen. But I doubt that their respective victories were because of their military prowess.

The VC were utterly crushed, leading the NVA to get more directly involved in the South rather than using them as a catspaw. To the extent that the combined operation had success (which it clearly did) it was because of the NVA—a regular army—and the backing they had even further up the Communist food chain.

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by refurb on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @06:02PM (#21131219)
Not sure why you’re downvoted as this reflects the historical record.

During Tet, the VC was crushed and ceased being an effective fighting force in the south. The NVA was forced to pick up the slack.

The eventual takeover of south Vietnam was by conventional military forces.

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by manfredo on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:44PM (#21127536)
Will those superior logistics stay in place when mountain passes are swarming with insurgents, and railways are getting bombed left and right? What good will the advanced weapons be when the insurgents are blending into your own taxpayers?
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by malandrew on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @03:24PM (#21129513)
> Except the US military doesn't just have superior weaponry. It also has superior training, superior discipline, superior logistics, superior intelligence, superior force projection capability, superior everything.

You assume that all members of the US military would fight on behalf of the government. All members of the armed forces swear an oath to the US Constitution, not the federal government, so it's pretty much certain that a non-trivial proportion would defect from the will of the government if the orders were contrary to the oath sworn to the US Constitution. At that point, that superior training, discipline, logistics, intelligence, force projection, everything is also in the hands of the insurgency against unconstitutional orders.

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by jki275 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:42PM (#21127515)
The US citizenry includes an absolute fuckton of former military.

You're simply wrong, it's not "the truth".