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Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by mytailorisrich on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @11:22AM (#21126344)
The irony is of course to downvote to hell any dissenting comment in a debate about democratic values and censorship in China...
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by rumanator on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @07:35PM (#21132058)
> The irony is of course to downvote to hell any dissenting comment in a debate about democratic values and censorship in China...

Please don't confuse PR posts conducted by China's 50 cent army lauding absurdities such as the virtues of a totalitarian regime as "dissenting comment".

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by mytailorisrich on Wednesday October 02, 2019 @08:49AM (#21135795)
Please stop assuming that any comment that does not share your opinion on China is fake.
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by tempguy9999 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:08PM (#21127044)
A dissenting comment that is wrong is a bad comment and deserves downvoting for being wrong.

I'm not saying it is wrong, but expecting that democracy means all opinions are valid is a very basic misunderstanding. Very basic.

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by mytailorisrich on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:34PM (#21127400)
At the very least it does mean not suppressing opinions that you consider 'wrong'.

This is not a discussion on a technical or scientific topic. This is not black and white.

In fact, and since someone mentioned the American nationality of HN, the lack of subtlety and the need to see everything in black and white, right or wrong, is a common 'criticisim', so to speak, about Americans.

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by tempguy9999 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @01:02PM (#21127750)
> At the very least it does mean not suppressing opinions that you consider 'wrong'.

true!

> This is not black and white.

Potentially true, but I feel you're fogging the issue (something that happens a surprising amount of time in these discussions involving china).

I distinguished between dissenting comments and bad comments. While that's not utterly B/W it's actually pretty clear.

> In fact, and since someone mentioned the American nationality of HN, the lack of subtlety and the need to see everything in black and white, right or wrong, is a common 'criticisim', so to speak, about Americans.

Ah good old racism! And it is racism BTW. Americans are crude, stupid and gunslinging morons. Well, I've met a very few like that, very few indeed.

Can I make some obnoxious and unfair generalisations about the chinese? You're OK with that I take it?

I'm a brit BTW.

Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by mytailorisrich on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @01:46PM (#21128350)
The downside of freedom of speech is what one has to read, sometimes..
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by tempguy9999 on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @01:59PM (#21128562)
That insinuation that I'm uneducated addresses none of my points. So how about replying to the given issues.
Re:Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong ... by unethical_ban on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @11:59AM (#21126894)
There is no irony. I am not calling the authorities to have you and your family beaten and arrested.