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Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by Pfhreak on Monday September 30, 2019 @05:28PM (#21119819)
Do plants grow well in microgravity/low gravity is still not well understood. Growing stuff on the moon, especially more complex plants, is still quite valuable to our understanding of whether we can sustain life off world.

I'm less familiar with Lunar "dirt" (aka regolith) than Martian regolith, but it's very likely that Lunar regolith isn't capable of supporting life. Martian regolith is a highly toxic blend of perchlorates, oxides, and extremely dry jagged minerals. The lack of a water cycle means that weathering behaves very differently, and the resulting material is considerably sharper and finer than the stuff on Earth. It also, of course, lacks any of the organic content that you'd need to make healthy soil.

Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by WalterBright on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:21PM (#21121419)
With all the lunar rocks brought back by the Apollo missions, it's sad if no researchers tried to grow things in it.
Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by Pfhreak on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:23PM (#21121430)
Those rocks are highly controlled, however there are scientists investigating whether soil can be made from simulated regolith.
Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by WalterBright on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:29PM (#21121463)
Many have wound up in private hands, and others just sit uselessly in museums.

Besides, what more valuable research could be done with them than answering "can we grow crops in lunar dirt" and "what do we need to mix in the lunar dirt to get crops to grow"?

Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by Pfhreak on Monday September 30, 2019 @11:35PM (#21121799)
I believe most still remain in a sealed vault, stored in a nitrogen environment, and only rarely are damaged or passed to other scientists for study.

We might want to understand:

The rate at which solar radiation impacts one side of lunar rock vs another (all the specimens were sampled with their orientation photographed). The composition of different lunar materials in different places. The alignment of various internal crystal or magnetic elements to better understand the moon and Earth's history. If we get very lucky, we might pick up a rock that came from Mars, or somewhere else, and we can understand the creation of our own solar system. Solar radiation leaves its mark on the rocks, and provides us a record of our sun's history if we can learn to read it.

We might want to understand whether a lunar regolith sample was capable of sustaining life, but the way we do that is not just grab the existing samples and put a seed in them. They are far too rare and precious. Better to try and understand everything about them and their formation, then try to create as accurate a simulation as possible.

Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by WalterBright on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @12:02AM (#21121925)
> Better to try and understand everything about them and their formation, then try to create as accurate a simulation as possible.

Why is that better? Learning if they can support life seems far, far more valuable and practical than better understanding of its geological history.

If crops can grow in it, then a moon base becomes far more practical, and with a moon base you'll have all the rocks you want for further study.

I.e. priority should go to "what do we need to know to build a sustainable moon base". Understanding solar formation history is of doubtful immediate value.

Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by Pfhreak on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @01:59AM (#21122438)
Good question. I'm guessing that solar history could inform things like the histories of other world and their compositions. We might be better able to predict where to find water, or learn why Mars has no magnetic field.

If we can manufacture lunar regolith, and it's 99.9 percent the same, why use the real stuff (which is literally priceless) ?

Re:China Grew Two Cotton Leaves on the Moon by WalterBright on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @02:43AM (#21122619)
If we can manufacture lunar regolith, then the real thing is not needed for any other studies, either!

> which is literally priceless

The price we'll pay for not using it will be the cost of extra missions to the moon to do those experiments there. We cannot plan a moon base without knowing whether crops will grow there or not.