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Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by erdgdsgbdfsg on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:45AM (#21115244)
High sulfur diesel is super nasty, and the shipping industry has to clean up, but it's not obvious how.

I mean, let's say we forbid them from using high S diesel. What happens to this diesel then? Do we dump it in tailing ponds? pump it back into the ground? It's not obvious what to do with this. At least at sea S emissions are spread out minimizing impact (as opposed to localized)

I'm not saying not to do anything. I'm asking, what are we to do? (I have some ideas in mind, so it's not impossible)

Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by Tuna-Fish on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:51AM (#21115304)
> I mean, let's say we forbid them from using high S diesel. What happens to this diesel then?

It gets the sulfur refined out of it. It's not hard to do, just not quite as cheap as just burning it somewhere where no environmental regulations exists (or where they are not enforceable).

Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by xkcd-sucks on Monday September 30, 2019 @11:11AM (#21116169)
Elemental sulfur isn't all that nasty, it would be fine in a pile somewhere. The issue is dispersing it into ecosystems quickly. Kind of like fixed nitrogen, which like sulfur is a nutrient
Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by jws on Monday September 30, 2019 @12:26PM (#21117044)
You can see the great stacked blocks of it in Canada where it is removed from the tar sands oil… https://www.google.com/mymaps/viewer?mid=1Wi4KuLBYcXHH0dq4j4...

The oil is more valuable without the sulfur, but the market price of sulfur is low, so they just stack it up.

Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by joncrane on Monday September 30, 2019 @05:44PM (#21119971)
Don't most laws work like this:

"As of Date X, Y will be illegal." So refiners basically stop making high Sulphur diesel, but date X is far enough in the future that there's time to use it all up before the law takes effect.

Re:Ships fitted with ‘cheat devices’ to divert poisonous pol... by dzhiurgis on Tuesday October 01, 2019 @04:48AM (#21123332)
Electric cars give away fuel that ships can now use. Of course there’s nowhere to put fuel which shops used to use