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Re:The perils of short-termism by djrobstep on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:34AM (#21115153)
But I do not care about "stronger, healthier markets" as a goal. What interests me is liberation from the market and collective ownership of capital.

Capitalists generally do not care about markets in the abstract either: what motivates them is class domination. But they don't want to state that plainly, and so dress up the discourse with talk of markets, efficiency, etc etc.

Re:The perils of short-termism by dr_dshiv on Monday September 30, 2019 @06:22PM (#21120223)
What is the appeal of liberation from the market? Aren't you participating now in a market of ideas?

I don't know why you "other" capitalists. It doesn't seem right.