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Re:The perils of short-termism by pytester on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:34AM (#21114627)
>No, they've gone up - but my point is that the baseline costs for raising a child in average, decent-quality conditions (in today's terms) are still drastically lower than even the lowest of salaries

I don't see how that can be if the core costs - rent, medical care, education have all skyrocketed.

Diapers going down in price by 15% doesn't really help if at the same the price of college goes from $15k to $150k.

Re:The perils of short-termism by keiferski on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:45AM (#21115246)
Again, a college that costs $150k is a want, not a need. There are plenty of opportunities to go to community college, gain credits in high school, etc.
Re:The perils of short-termism by pytester on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:48AM (#21115283)
Even if you do consider college a want (which is highly dubious in today's wage earning environment and with competition from globalization that didn't exist before), rent and medical care are the furthest possible thing from want.
Re:The perils of short-termism by keiferski on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:51AM (#21115303)
Again, rent in cities that aren’t the hot, desirable coastal ones is quite reasonable and has been for a considerable amount of time. And as I just mentioned, there are a plethora of ways to earn a college degree without spending $150,000.
Re:The perils of short-termism by pytester on Monday September 30, 2019 @12:01PM (#21116801)
>Again, rent in cities that aren’t the hot, desirable coastal ones is quite reasonable

Wages are shit in a lottt of those places. Rents are reasonable as a % of SF programmer income I suppose, but the picture is a little different if it's mostly walmart jobs or nothing available.