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Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by twelvechairs on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:27AM (#21113990)
There's also lots of leaders (many important ones on history) who say controversial things. You are saying they shouldn't be given a platform by society, which I can't disagree with more.

This isn't the followers saying "no, that's not ok", this is large institutions saying "no" on behalf of a vocal few.

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by viraptor on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:37AM (#21114097)
Mu. You asked if leader is defined by challenging things. I gave an alternative definition with an example of leaders not challenging things. (and sure, there are also those who do challenge) No-platforming is a completely different topic, and I have expressed no opinions about it.
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by sergioj97 on Monday September 30, 2019 @10:57AM (#21116023)
You didn't just give an example of a leader who doesn't challenge things. You literally stated that if a follower disagrees with the leader, then "by definition" he/she is not a good leader. You are implying that the definition of "leader" includes that you can't challenge things people may not find ok (disagree with).
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by twelvechairs on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:10AM (#21114399)
You haven't responded to my point here, this is just playing semantics and making me guess your definitions.

Despite how you are dancing around responses, from where I see it: You are clearly denying him a platform by saying he shouldnt be a 'leader' (ie. keep his posts). You are making that decision by institutions instead of individuals. You are holding all the worlds 'leaders' to your own moral views which is logically inconsistent.

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by viraptor on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:44AM (#21114722)
You've made multiple assumptions about my opinions that I disagree with, and honestly it's too much work to unwind. I'd rather leave now.
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by twelvechairs on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:51AM (#21114778)
I'm trying here, but you just seem to do all you can to avoid debate and confuse discussion