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Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by claudeganon on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:09AM (#21113834)
I’m not sure if this is just more grandstanding of the “SJWs run amok” variety, but in case you’re unaware, his recent comments were just the tip of the iceberg:

https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendi...

Someone else downthread also linked about how a woman he worked with on a Linux project had to be warned of his arrival ahead of time so she could leave because of his aggressive advances toward her.

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by roenxi on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:05AM (#21114338)
Something like 50% of that article isn't Stallman related, and some of the choice quotes are a bit unbelievable. Eg:

> I recall being told early in my freshman year “If RMS hits on you, just say ‘I’m a vi user’ even if it’s not true.”

That sounds like a joke. I mean, it is a joke. That isn't a serious comment/strategy on harassment. No creep has ever been forestalled by someone claiming to be a vi user.

1 stupid opinion and 3 negative comments, one of which looks like a joke, from 1980 to 2019 isn't evidence of a problem with Stallman.

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by FactolSarin on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:29AM (#21114576)
I don't know. Have you ever read Stallman's appearance requirements[1]? I mean, yeah, it's probably a joke. But I wouldn't be shocked it it were true either.

[1] https://github.com/ddol/rre-rms/blob/master/rider.txt

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by roenxi on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:40AM (#21114692)
Yes I have. It is more reasonable than people give it credit for. If most of the people honestly catalogued all their quirks they'd end up with something fairly similar. Usually the courtesy when travelling is to put up with whatever the host provides, but that is less realistic when someone spends a lot of time travelling.

How is a host meant to figure any of the details in that rider out ahead of a Stallman visit without him telling them? It could easily be a log of all the things that have gone wrong for him in the past.

People like to go to the parrot quote. It wouldn't at all surprise me if a Stallman fan who was putting him up the the night tried to buy a parrot if they thought it would make him happy. The man's selfless dedication to the public good has earned him a couple of true believers over the years.

It is also comprehensive and doesn't mention anything about Vi.

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by blackhaz on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:14AM (#21114430)
This is hilarious. This Selam G. is full of bullshit.
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by loktarogar on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:09AM (#21114381)
It's in the sphere of believability when it comes to Stallman. He's a pretty eccentric bloke.
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by roenxi on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:17AM (#21114466)
He's been forced to resign from 2-3 organisations and we've got an article here that says he might be homeless and a suicide risk.

"He's a pretty eccentric bloke" is not enough to justify using something that looks like a joke as evidence of problems stretching back to 1980. That quote is 33% of the shocking evidence mentioned in this link section 2.

The vi vs emacs 'holy war' is also a long running joke that Stallman gets involved in sometimes. He doesn't actually object to vi.

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by loktarogar on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:16PM (#21193872)
see, they use the joke an abbreviation of all the problems. they've been living it, this isn't a new thing like it seems to be for many here; for them, summing up with one joke is far more efficient than listing off all the incidents that are just facts in their world.
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by lettergram on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:51AM (#21114228)
I’d like a first hand account and link:

> Someone else downthread also linked about how a woman he worked with on a Linux project had to be warned of his arrival ahead of time so she could leave because of his aggressive advances toward her.

Just an FYI the person who said that already had beef with RMS. I’d recommend reading fully into the situation - perhaps you still believe it, but at least you’ll know.

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by haasted on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:50AM (#21114216)
Same author as the original medium post, so I would assume identical agenda and a risk of cherry-picking and distortion of the incidents described.
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by coldtea on Monday September 30, 2019 @09:47AM (#21115267)
>I’m not sure if this is just more grandstanding of the “SJWs run amok” variety

Or perhaps a counter-balance to the "Stallman run amok/let's crucify him" variety? How about that?

Is the "tip of the iceberg" meant to be sarcastic? One of the headings is even "1. Richard Stallman has problematic opinions". Opinions are enough to have someone persecuted? What happened to free discourse then?

Are only "non problematic" opinions allowed? And who would be the arbiter of this? At some point a gay man being married was also a "problematic opinion". Or a mixed race couple. And not in Nazi Germany, in e.g. 70s USA. Let that sink in, before condemning "problematic" opinions.

"MIT, by endorsing Stallman, also gives legitimacy to these ideas."

MIT endorses Stallman as an academic or whatever he employs him for. Not as a wholesale controller and endorser of Stallman's ideas and personality.

"I recall being told early in my freshman year “If RMS hits on you, just say ‘I’m a vi user’ even if it’s not true.”"

That's a horrifying story? At best it's a joke about someone who hits on freshman students frequently.

"He literally used to have a mattress on the floor of his office. He kept the door to his office open, to proudly showcase that mattress and all the implications that went with it."

Oh, the humanity.

"the mattress was also known to have shirtless people lounging on it…"

Spoken like a person who has never experienced the 60s and 70s campuses...

"I don’t know if he and I were the last two left, but at a table with only the two of us, Richard Stallman told me of his misery and that he’d kill himself if I didn’t go out with him."

OK, that's creepy. Could also be a desperate attempt at connection by a depressive. It was also a conversation between two adults, and one could tell him to fuck (which from what I gather, is what happened, if more eloquently, and without further issue).

"But MIT is a privileged place. We have the right to choose who we admit, hire, or endorse."

I thought the whole idea these days was against privilege.

And where were all these good souls when their privileged MIT helped threaten Aaron Swartz with jail, and helped led him to commit suicide?

Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by chappi42 on Monday September 30, 2019 @08:24PM (#21120908)
Very well said. Don't understand why this is grey?
Re:In Defense of Richard Stallman by cambalache on Monday September 30, 2019 @07:43AM (#21114152)
I am sorry but that is a pretty awful article.