Re:Online courses vs. colleges for software engineering
by nothrabannosir on Sunday September 29, 2019 @05:46AM
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This still sounds US related? E.g. many European states will give you a no-questions-asked loan to cover both (reasonable) tuition fees and your living expenses.
When access to education is considered an actual right, living expenses tend to be included in the conversation (as you just pointed out). Unlike merely incidentally affordable education.
Re:Online courses vs. colleges for software engineering
by luckylion on Sunday September 29, 2019 @06:08AM
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Even with education loans, some people can't afford it, because they have to support the family financially now and you lose that opportunity when you're at university.
Re:Online courses vs. colleges for software engineering
by nothrabannosir on Sunday September 29, 2019 @12:00PM
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We've gone from discussing the original point ("Filtering by college degrees is filtering by family wealth more than anything else" is a US centric view: yes or no?) to discussing the efficacy of state bursaries for college education. It's not an inconsequential topic, but it's not the original point anymore.
Re:Online courses vs. colleges for software engineering
by adjkant on Sunday September 29, 2019 @12:51PM
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I don't think the posted is making any discussion of efficacy here, but is simply stating that there are people (non-US) who have to make the economic choice not to attend school, so filtering by degree even outside of the US is problematic.
Yet, people who need to cover their own living expenses have a far smaller success rate, need to drop out more often or need to pause studies to work.
Programs to cover these living expenses exist, but they are limited, and not everyone who is not eligible for these can easily cover all expenses.