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Re:Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.? by mytailorisrich on Sunday September 29, 2019 @04:08AM (#21105806)
I do understand. This is an issue with Whatsapp's architecture, not with my comment or governments' concerns.
Re:Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.? by ripdog on Sunday September 29, 2019 @04:13AM (#21105830)
No, you don't. This is a fundamental rule of how encryption works. You can't design around it.

If there is a key which decrypts everything, then there is a risk it can be stolen or guessed and used to decrypt anyone's messages. This risk does not exist in current, properly designed systems.

Any government which wishes to add a backdoor to an E2E encrypted messaging system must understand that they will be HEAVILY undermining the security and privacy rights for all users of the service which has the backdoor.

Re:Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.? by mytailorisrich on Sunday September 29, 2019 @04:21AM (#21105855)
I think you are the one not understanding at this point. This has nothing to do with "how encryption works".

Whatsapp decided to go for E2E encryption for commercial and marketing purposes following all those privacy scandals.

They did not have to. They could have gone with P2P encryption, i.e. that their databases could have stored messages in cleartext. That way authorities would not have needed to ask for any backdoor. As already mentioned, this is how cellular operators work (that's obviously something governments wanted).

I think we might see legislation brought in in the future in order to force this.

Re:Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.? by ripdog on Sunday September 29, 2019 @03:06PM (#21109001)
Oh. I didn't realise you were arguing against encryption in its entirety.

Okay. Let's just get rid of E2E entirely and let Facebook mine not only our metadata but also the content of our messages. Nice plan.

Re:Facebook, WhatsApp Will Have to Share Messages With U.K.? by mytailorisrich on Monday September 30, 2019 @02:31AM (#21112281)
I am not arguing against encryption in its entirety...

> let Facebook mine not only our metadata...

Don't use Facebook, then.