Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018)

Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by PavlovsCat on Saturday September 28, 2019 @04:15AM (#21099121)

Those are things humans do to other humans, it's not the emptyness of space, the harsh reality of the universe, doing that to us. To "stand guard" at the edge of humanity as if to ward of some outside intrusion of evil just doesn't make sense. There is still plenty of suffering to be had even if all humans were excellent to each other, but that would take so much bite out of it.

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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by seph-reed on Saturday September 28, 2019 @04:39AM (#21099209)

The outside of the bubble isn't space.

It sounds like you're on the tail end of existentialism, which is good. It does keep going for a while passed that.

Seems like you may be heading towards Absurdism. If so, I recommend Optimistic Nihilism instead. It's much less of a kick in the shins to the envious tortured souls you never notice watching you.

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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by PavlovsCat on Saturday September 28, 2019 @04:52AM (#21099258)

The person you responded to said they think reality isn't harsh, humans are, and you replied with a bunch of harsh things humans do as if that contradicted their comment, which it doesn't. Yet you're contradicting yourself:

> In the moment it sucks, but over time I look back and see a beautiful existence.

vs.

> Imagine looking an abused child in the eyes and saying "is reality that harsh?"

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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by seph-reed on Saturday September 28, 2019 @01:16PM (#21101549)

1. Humans aren't some exception to reality.

2. Beauty can exist in harsh realities.

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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by FussyZeus on Saturday September 28, 2019 @12:30PM (#21101272)

I find it interesting you namecheck Optimistic Nihilism because that's largely where I'm at. And I'm sorry but you just aren't presenting much here that's intrinsic, naturally occurring harshness but instead the manifestations of cruel people, which is exactly what I posted about in the first place.

I don't think the world is that cruel. I think people, both individually and as a group, are tremendously cruel and capable of terrible things that in turn make the world cruel.

In short, to borrow the words of Rorschach from Watchmen, “...God didn't kill that little girl. Fate didn't butcher her and destiny didn't feed her to those dogs. If God saw what any of us did that night he didn't seem to mind. From then on I knew... God doesn't make the world this way. We do.”

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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by seph-reed on Saturday September 28, 2019 @01:18PM (#21101560)

I don't think humans are the only species that would do this give sentience.

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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by FussyZeus on Saturday September 28, 2019 @02:28PM (#21102016)

Does that make it somehow better?

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Re:Men Are Waiting to Share Some Feelings (2018) by seph-reed on Monday September 30, 2019 @01:11PM (#21117473)

No. The point is that this isn't just a human thing.

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