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Re:Plane Tests Must Use Average Pilots, NTSB Says After 737 ... by tim333 on Friday September 27, 2019 @11:49PM (#21098305)
> If you follow the runaway trim procedure, you recover.

In the Ethiopian crash the crew followed the runaway trim check list but didn't recover. The issue seems have been that the aircraft was going to fast so they couldn't turn the manual trim adjuster. But that isn't mentioned on the runaway checklist (http://www.b737.org.uk/runawaystab.htm)

OK a different crew might have figured that and slowed down but not crashing should not be that tricky really.

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Re:Plane Tests Must Use Average Pilots, NTSB Says After 737 ... by mlyle on Saturday September 28, 2019 @12:02AM (#21098353)
As already discussed, the runaway trim procedure got them to a positive rate climb.

Then they did A) re-enabled electric trim (and MCAS) B) while still low, C) touched the trim button for a second, and didn't adjust anywhere close to proper trim, and D) left electric trim/MCAS on.

Not to mention, from your source, the FCTM says:

> Excessive airloads on the stabilizer may require effort by both pilots to correct the mis-trim. In extreme cases it may be necessary to aerodynamically relieve the airloads to allow manual trimming. Accelerate or decelerate towards the in-trim speed while attempting to trim manually.

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