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Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by esyir on Friday September 27, 2019 @04:44AM (#21089768)
But there's also reasonable levels of discomfort and comfort, otherwise it turns into weaponized fragility.

Also, Jesus, they literally classified asking someone out on a date as sexual harassment.

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Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by jcranmer on Friday September 27, 2019 @09:45AM (#21091880)
In a workplace environment, it is quite possible that there could be implied ramifications to accepting or not accepting a request for a date. And if the person being asked of it sees the request for a date as having an unspoken "or else..." tacked onto the end of it... well, why shouldn't that be sexual harassment?
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Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by _ph_ on Friday September 27, 2019 @07:22AM (#21090649)
Yes there are reasonable levels of discomfort, but at a decent work place, those cannot be set to high before HR should take actions.

And by my understanding, he certainly was way more direct than asking someone out for a date. Have you seen the "pleasure cards"?

I can testify of him harassing people privately over public discussions on mailing lists.

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Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by craigsmansion on Friday September 27, 2019 @08:00AM (#21090894)
> Have you seen the "pleasure cards"?

Yes, having been asked "business or pleasure" countless times during his travel, his "pleasure card" is a nice pun on "business card". Of course, some might not like puns, so this reduces to "guy uses corny joke to introduce himself." I'm sure that never happened before.

https://fossforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/RMSleisure....

> I can testify of him harassing people privately over public discussions on mailing lists.

Taking disagreements off-list is now harassment instead of good form?

Feel free to reproduce exactly these harassing private exchanges here. I'm fairly sure rms wouldn't mind, so there is nothing stopping you from providing actual evidence for this particular accusation.

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Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by aortega on Friday September 27, 2019 @06:53PM (#21097008)
>Yes, having been asked "business or pleasure" countless times during his travel, his "pleasure card" is a nice pun on "business card".

That's the nerdiest joke that I ever heard.

BTW this is the first time I heard the pleasure card explanation. Poor choice for a joke.

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Re:Stallman Still Heading the GNU Project by _ph_ on Friday September 27, 2019 @08:22AM (#21091071)
Taking disagreements off-list is now harassment instead of good form?

It wasn't disagreement, but aggressive harassment including legal threads.

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