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Re:Amazon Echo Buds by badger_bravo on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @04:22PM (#21074923)
> But I will never, ever, ever allow a company to intervene between my physical senses and the physical world

So no headphones in general? what about vision-correcting glasses? I'm very confused by this line you're drawing.

Re:Amazon Echo Buds by lukifer on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @05:13PM (#21075545)
As someone who feels similarly, I'd say the difference is a tool under the control of the user, as opposed to "outsourcing" to a mix of closed-source software, opaque algorithms, and quasi-feudal corporations.

Eyeglasses, headphones, "dumb" hearing aids, all a-ok. Replacing vision or audio by a mysterious cloud product are over the line.

I'd argue that even smartphones and social networks distort the fabric of our perception, operating on dopamine feedback loops, sense-making, norms, and interpersonal relationships. These things are all deeply entangled anyway (if one goes full Luddite, but all one's friends have not, one is still captured heavily by tech in practice).

For those of who care, we have to draw whatever bright lines we can, no matter how arbitrary; for me, it's simply about having a clear line for what is private, and what is public (including anything living on cloud/FAANG, I treat as de-facto public). I want to have an intentionality with what I send over the wire, as opposed to sharing everything with the world as path-of-least-resistance.

Re:Amazon Echo Buds by frenchyatwork on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @04:48PM (#21075262)
I admire your pedantry, but there's a clear distinction between these things and what dawg- referred too. One is a product with a behaviour that is clearly understood, and not proprietary (for the most part). More importantly, it's behaviour is not under the control of anyone else.

I can see why you might think this line is a little restrictive and arbitrary. Collectively we've already gotten used to running so much software that we have little to no oversight over, so this seems like such a small thing.

Re:Amazon Echo Buds by Agathos on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @10:06PM (#21077489)
Maybe one day we'll have software-controlled corrective lenses, and then they can take over-the-air updates to subtly enlarge and sharpen certain logos...
Re:Amazon Echo Buds by dawg- on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @04:39PM (#21075151)
Headphones are dumb, single-purpose objects. The long term vision of airpods are that they are part of users' everyday interface with the world - with someone else in the middle harvesting data. Ditto with glasses.
Re:Amazon Echo Buds by king_panic on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @04:24PM (#21074948)
Nitpicking. The argument is clear.