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Re:WARP is here by Pigo on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @09:44AM (#21070692)
It sounds like an interesting product, but I'm wary of anything put out by the arbiters of the internet.
Re:WARP is here by Pfhreak on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @09:54AM (#21070782)
Really? The arbiters of the internet? You don't think that's maybe a little melodramatic?

Cloudflare has, time and time again demonstrated openness, transparency, and insight into their technical and ethical frameworks. I trust them a whole lot more than my isp or any random vpn provider.

Re:WARP is here by falcolas on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @10:58AM (#21071384)
> The arbiters of the internet? You don't think that's maybe a little melodramatic?

As someone who has browsed sites "powered by cloudflare" over Tor and been tossed into an infinite "are you human" loop, it certainly doesn't feel melodramatic.

They've also exercised power over websites based on moral outrage. Perhaps 99.999% of people agree with the morals behind this decision, and maybe it's even the right decision, but it's still an arbitrary decision made by Cloudflare.

They are also bound by US law, and other entities bound by US law have been forced to enable the exact same forms of record keeping that Cloudflare says they will keep turned off.

Cloudflare is not a neutral party. They don't even advertise themselves as a neutral party.

Re:WARP is here by thenewnewguy on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @01:38PM (#21073097)
> As someone who has browsed sites "powered by cloudflare" over Tor and been tossed into an infinite "are you human" loop, it certainly doesn't feel melodramatic.

https://privacypass.github.io/

Re:WARP is here by sbarre on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @11:08AM (#21071470)
There are no neutral parties on the Internet.

Pick the evil you're most comfortable with.

Re:WARP is here by ummonk on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @12:25PM (#21072284)
Were you allowing them to set cookies on your browser? If not, I don't see how they could do anything but toss you into an infinite "are you human" loop...
Re:WARP is here by AznHisoka on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @09:49AM (#21070733)
Personally, I'd feel safer using this vs any other random VPN service. At least these guys have a reputation at stake, if people discovered they were selling your data.
Re:WARP is here by fnordsensei on Wednesday September 25, 2019 @09:54AM (#21070778)
If you're dealing with adversarial middle-men, it could be OK. I lived in a country where everything inside the country right up to the border could be considered adversarial.

If it brings competition to the shady VPN-peddlers, and is easy to download and get going, I'll consider it a net positive, all-in-all, regardless whether I'll use it personally or not.