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Re:Simple words that save lives: lessons from “expert talkers” by thaumasiotes on Tuesday September 24, 2019 @07:32PM (#21065858)
Look at what happened when a person who was actually suicidal shared the viewpoint that worked for him, in public:

https://www.popehat.com/2016/04/21/what-empathy-looks-like-t...

With that level of public openmindedness, the citable evidence (of which this is a part) is guaranteed to dramatically understate the actual effectiveness of the approach.

Re:Simple words that save lives: lessons from “expert talkers” by ralmeida on Tuesday September 24, 2019 @07:42PM (#21065942)
I don't think I'm following here. The viewer was suicidal, but wasn't anymore when he was berated.

My interpretation from your link is that "watching videos of someone playing games helped a viewer not commit suicide".

How's this evidence for advocating berating people while (not after) they are suicidal?

Re:Simple words that save lives: lessons from “expert talkers” by thaumasiotes on Tuesday September 24, 2019 @08:18PM (#21066215)
The viewer was suicidal.

The streamer was also suicidal, and responded to the viewer's note with his personal viewpoint on committing suicide. ("People who do it are selfish and weak" -- pretty much the same viewpoint we're discussing here.) Note that, since the streamer was alive, that viewpoint successfully prevented him, the streamer, from committing suicide.

For sharing his successful views, he was made a pariah.

Re:Simple words that save lives: lessons from “expert talkers” by ralmeida on Tuesday September 24, 2019 @09:00PM (#21066497)
Nowhere in the post says the streamer was suicidal. It says they were depressed.

Even if it did, the suicidal person themselves thinking suicide is selfish is a totally different thing than someone else saying it to them, especially in a moment of crisis.