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Re:Life in China Is Getting Harder With High Prices by barry-cotter on Tuesday September 24, 2019 @03:37AM (#21057481)
> Western nations have plenty of authoritarianism already. It's just more insidious and under the surface. For example, here in the UK there are CCTV cameras everywhere[1].

True

> They're all linked up so the police can remotely follow citizens around towns, along roads, down motorways, etc.

Not true. The police need to ask individually every time they want CCTV footage from private businesses or get a warrant. They do not have convenient access to all CCTV.

> Every bus and train has CCTV on it. Every shop has cameras. People are encouraged to have them in their houses. Whenever there are police documentaries on television they always have CCTV footage of crimes.

And police documentaries don’t show the ones where they don’t have footage or where the criminals got away. If the UK was truly a panopticon there’s be far less crime. I’m not sure what their clearance rate is but people get away with murder in London so I doubt the average mugger has too much to fear from CCTV.

Re:Life in China Is Getting Harder With High Prices by johnisgood on Tuesday September 24, 2019 @08:06AM (#21059100)
> I doubt the average mugger has too much to fear from CCTV.

Not sure if you are claiming this, but this does not mean that surveillance is not rampant. You need more than CCTVs for criminals to fear them. Sometimes you do not even need CCTVs for criminals to fear the state.