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Re:My Talk at Microsoft by ThrowawayR2 on Monday September 23, 2019 @11:15AM (#21049659)
> Ballmer is an opportunist, pure and simple.

You say that as if it were a condemnation. Everybody who runs a business is an opportunist, pure and simple.

Re:My Talk at Microsoft by asveikau on Monday September 23, 2019 @12:20PM (#21050352)
Everyone who runs a business, just like everyone in any other life circumstance, must balance multiple concerns at the same time. So, the need to make money, and the need not to be a jerk. They can and should overlap in the same individual.

We've gone through periods in our culture where we glorify greed and self-interest. (Commentary like yours makes me think of Reaganites or Ayn Rand.) We've gone through other periods where we acknowledge the need to band together. (Think 1960s hippies.) A functioning person probably needs both types of influence at various times of their lives. I get really tired of how many people glorify or worship the former and neglect the latter.

Re:My Talk at Microsoft by jacquesm on Monday September 23, 2019 @11:18AM (#21049695)
To a coarse approximation, yes. But very few people would go to the lengths that Ballmer was prepared to go to. In a more just society these guys would be behind bars rather than pretending to be philanthropists.
Re:My Talk at Microsoft by ThrowawayR2 on Monday September 23, 2019 @11:22AM (#21049736)
> But very few people would go to the lengths that Ballmer was prepared to go to.

Larry Ellison? Scott McNealy? I'm sure I could think of others if I had the time. Ballmer was merely the most visible because MS was at the top of the food chain at the time.

Re:My Talk at Microsoft by jacquesm on Monday September 23, 2019 @05:01PM (#21053603)
Good point about Ellison and McNealy, Jobs figures in there somewhere as well given how he treated his business partner.
Re:My Talk at Microsoft by fortran77 on Monday September 23, 2019 @11:25AM (#21049768)
That would be fine if he didn't pretend to be a man of "principles" built on a foundation that can not be shaken.