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Re:If you do not have hacker friends, what is the best way t... by whacked_new on Thursday May 10, 2007 @10:38AM (#21049)
I too have talked to hacker friends who don't have the nerve. Get 5 years of experience, then start something. 5 years later, get 5 years of experience, then start something.

and 5 years later, they start a family.

if you think about it, it's pretty easy for a decent programmer to get comfortable with a 9-5. if it pays well, you really don't need to think much. and i've come to believe that complacent people, no matter how skilled, will not be able to achieve great things. when i talk to talented, but complacent people, it's harrowing.

Re:If you do not have hacker friends, what is the best way t... by KB on Thursday May 10, 2007 @11:16AM (#21062)
I agree with the comfort level of a 9-5. I've been working high paying 9-5 jobs between IT and Software Engineering since I graduated (3 years now).

I'm just plain sick of it, however I can certainly see how the majority can get easily complacent with the daily routine and nil responsibility.

I've just come to the realization that its not for me.

Re:If you do not have hacker friends, what is the best way t... by brlewis on Thursday May 10, 2007 @12:23PM (#21085)
Find hackers who are thinking about schools for their kids and discovering that the kind of environment they want costs a lot of money. Those are the ones who might branch out and try something new.