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Re:Almost one in five men admits to having no close friends,... by nitrogen on Sunday September 22, 2019 @03:45PM (#21043488)
It's a bit disappointing that community and belief system have to be intertwined. If one changes (you change beliefs, or your local community doesn't suit you), the other suffers (you lose your friends, or you have to pretend to believe something you don't).

I used to be devoutly religious through my mid twenties. In hindsight that was a mistake for me personally because the community surrounding that religion didn't suit me, and eventually discovered flaws in the belief system that led me to become an atheist. I missed many opportunities in life by trying to make that religion work for me for far too long.

So it's true that if you find a belief and community that work for you in the same place that it can be great, but I wish there were more options like that independent of belief.

Re:Almost one in five men admits to having no close friends,... by humanrebar on Sunday September 22, 2019 @05:14PM (#21044002)
Good community takes work and consistency among other things. Often you put in hard work, end up personally worse off, but everyone else benefits. Often, the connection between action and benefit are very disconnected.

Point being, at least in my experience, it's not possible to separate belief from community. Things like prioritizing forgiveness do not make both intellectual and emotional sense. At least not enough to keep families together, let alone groups less officially affiliated.

Re:Almost one in five men admits to having no close friends,... by colospoin on Sunday September 22, 2019 @04:49PM (#21043846)
>I missed many opportunities in life by trying to make that religion work for me for far too long.

Oh, this hits way, way too close to home.