Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome study finds

Re:Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome ... by tptacek on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:54PM (#21012476)

You are making a different claim than the parent. Their point is that simply from a scheduling perspective, and stipulating some adverse reaction from some vaccine, simultaneous vaccination maximizes the likelihood that you're going to experience that reaction at that specific time.

Your argument is that your kids feel crappy after they're vaccinated... so you get them vaccinated in 3 different stages. No matter what your brother says, the research appears to demonstrate that you're not improving your kid's experience; in fact, it seems like, if the parent comment is right, what you're really doing is maximizing the number of days they'll be uncomfortable, if they happen to have adverse reactions to more than one of the vaccines.

The thing we seem to know from the research is that simultaneous vaccination doesn't tax the immune system in such a way that a reaction to any one vaccine is more likely. Vaccinate all at once, or in 6 separate appointments: the number of reactions will be the same.

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Re:Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome ... by kazinator on Thursday September 19, 2019 @01:04AM (#21013441)

Also, the adverse effects won't all simply be additive when superimposed. Using a made up example, suppose Vaccine C by itself would give me a 0.9 degree fever the next day, and Vaccine D a 1.1 degree fever. If I get them together, maybe I will have only a 1.3 degree fever, not a 2.0.

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Re:Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome ... by samstave on Thursday September 19, 2019 @03:07AM (#21013998)

No, I have three daughters.

I paid fucking attention,

So, the one daughter whom had all of her vaccines at once was the only one of the three who had an adverse was one of three...

The other two daughters who had shit split up were not adversely affected

So literally A/B testing my kids.

And to top it off, did you see my comment abt my brother being one of the top doctors in the nation,here is him (and yes I’m going to call you Patrick again just for fun)

This is my brother

https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothy-ballard-md-ms-56312011/

I hav more med creeds if that’s not enough for you

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Re:Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome ... by extipion on Thursday September 19, 2019 @04:06AM (#21014279)

So that’s a test with a sample size of 3. You can not conclude anything meaningful from this. Med creeds aside, if you have any research creeds you’d know this isn’t particularly powerful.

I have a 2nd cousin that is a fantastic doctor. I also happen to be a doctor, like a bunch of others around here. Not to insult your brother in any way, but I’ve never heard of him until now. Also looking on Scopus, while he may be doing great things in the service of the VA, he does not seem to be a researcher.

Edit: also why do you think making a generalization shitting on “the doctors” that “don’t give a crap” to just follow up with an appeal to your brother “the doctor” strengthens what you’re saying in any way? I can assure you most pediatricians do give a crap (appealing to my own years of working with many), and if yours doesn’t I encourage you to find a new one.

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Re:Caesarean babies have different gut bacteria, microbiome ... by samstave on Thursday September 19, 2019 @03:44PM (#21019915)

I’ll concede to your points, except you saying that my sample size of three is insignificant because they are the only three I need to worry about personally, and so observing them personally individually react to the size of amount injected, with the additional outcome of getting the actual chicken pox due to the vaccine biases me.

Spread across millions, sure, an outlier family, but truth.

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