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Re:Modern C, Second Edition by fao_ on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @06:37PM (#21011162)
> Why is it always that SJWs like you need to find that one joke, one excerpt and turn it into some kind of personal war/problem/argument/discussion/hate?

Namecalling ("SJWs like you") is against the hacker news guidelines. I would suggest you read them.

Also, it's worth noting that actual, self-proclaimed SJWs (I am one, I know many, and am in their communities) wouldn't have any problem with the joke in question, because it's "punching up", i.e. it is making a joke about social problems in a group that has the systemic advantage. So your name calling isn't even accurate in this case.

> Instead of focusing on the VALUE brought by the author, you managed to dig up one benign joke and went on to discredit the entire thing.

Please point out where the poster "discredit[ed] the entire thing". I don't see them discrediting the entire book, I see them questioning a bit of context around the joke, which is a perfectly valid thing to do.

> Why aren't you ashamed of yourself?

Why aren't you? The poster is asking a legitimate question around the context of a line of the book, and you're insulting them and denigrating them for this.

Re:Modern C, Second Edition by throwaway5d097 on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @09:41PM (#21012418)
Maybe this is more about outrage culture (being upset over relatively small things like microagressions rather than "real problems", often argued to be a fallacy of relative privation, unless the small things are not a problem at all or the argument is that the response is disproportional to the magnitude of the problem) than about whether an SJW is of a feminist or some other persuasion. Some disagree that SJWs are necessarily feminist or vice versa. A lot of these terms aren't exactly clearly defined.

The argument could have been a lot clearer and less confrontational. At least it seems more consistent than anti-feminists being "reactionary" for the old times where we could make jokes about women but being offended by jokes about men.

Re:Modern C, Second Edition by michaelmior on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @06:38PM (#21011183)
> SJWs like you

That's awful lot to infer about someone from one sentence.

> turn it into some kind of personal war/problem/argument/discussion/hate

Picking the "discussion" part out of that, why is discussion on these topics a bad thing?

> one benign joke

Benign is subjective.

> discredit the entire thing

I think a more charitable read would not result in the implication that the question was intended to discredit the entire work.

> you actually put EFFORT in finding something

Or perhaps the parent just saw this when reading the page.

> Why aren't you ashamed of yourself?

Probably because it was just a simple question being asked.

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Re:Modern C, Second Edition by michaelmior on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @10:17PM (#21012613)
To clarify, by parent I was referring to the original commenter who made the parent comment to yours. My comment had nothing to do with biological parenthood. I'm glad you had a good laugh :)
Re:Modern C, Second Edition by zbentley on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @06:38PM (#21011181)
> Why aren't you ashamed of yourself?

Regardless of the argument, that's an unkind, personally-attacking tone and doesn't seem necessary to your criticism.

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Re:Modern C, Second Edition by zbentley on Wednesday September 18, 2019 @07:26PM (#21011596)
This is not productive. I have opinions about the tone here because I like reading comment threads here. "Hurt" is not something I can speak to.