Re:Bitterness, Anger And Betrayal At MySpace
by anamax on Thursday January 13, 2011 @01:07PM
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> The precise form of organization can be grown organically to fit the situation, whether you call it a "union" or just as "association"
How is it that calling something an association will avoid the problems from being a union in the US?
> The point is that programmers should organize so that they can improve the pay
It's poor form to assume your conclusion.
You keep bringing up doctors and lawyers (and you misstate what their professional organizations actually do and overstate their influence), yet your goals for a "programmers association" are more akin to those of teachers unions.
I understand why you want to avoid the comparison with teachers unions, but the only legitmate way to do so is to stop pushing the same thing.
Saying "this will be different" isn't enough. Same means, same ends.
How is it that calling something an association will avoid the problems from being a union in the US?
> The point is that programmers should organize so that they can improve the pay
It's poor form to assume your conclusion.
You keep bringing up doctors and lawyers (and you misstate what their professional organizations actually do and overstate their influence), yet your goals for a "programmers association" are more akin to those of teachers unions.
I understand why you want to avoid the comparison with teachers unions, but the only legitmate way to do so is to stop pushing the same thing.
Saying "this will be different" isn't enough. Same means, same ends.