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Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by sabat on Thursday June 05, 2008 @12:32PM (#210028)
Why I voted this up: because the author suggests that there is not just one correct way to do something. Which is not what 37signals usually suggests.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by jraines on Thursday June 05, 2008 @01:16PM (#210086)
I don't think they ever suggest that their way is the only way. There's nothing wrong with saying how you do something and making a case for it; you don't have to add a disclaimer to everything you write about doing business.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by sabat on Thursday June 05, 2008 @02:34PM (#210173)
I think you have a valid point. The reason I partially disagree with it is that attitude plays a part here. 37signals comes off as though they think they need to tell people how to live; they love being up in your grill. The contents of their posts are often reasoned well enough, but their attitude says "you suck; let us tell you how to suck less."
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by jrockway on Thursday June 05, 2008 @03:39PM (#210236)
It's your choice to read their blog. The fact that you take their arguments seriously means that they're probably on to something.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by sabat on Sunday June 08, 2008 @12:59AM (#211928)
I don't take their arguments seriously. I am merely annoyed by their posturing.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by bprater on Thursday June 05, 2008 @02:04PM (#210140)
Compelling writing often forces one to take a strong position.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by sabat on Sunday June 08, 2008 @01:02AM (#211932)
I'm going to reply again just to say: bullshit. Compelling writing doesn't need anything to back it up. You either have a point or you don't. Acting like an asshole just means you don't have much of anything to say.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by sabat on Thursday June 05, 2008 @02:35PM (#210176)
Agreed. My point is just that 37signals doesn't have to go as far as they do. A somewhat milder position would aid their message.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by jraines on Thursday June 05, 2008 @04:25PM (#210288)
Actually it almost certainly wouldn't, unless you mean specifically for you.

They're constantly in the press, they generate conversations on sites like this, and they've spawned a legion of (number)(noun) imitators. It's one of the basic principles of copywriting and social media marketing that it pays to be bold and occasionally controversial.

Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by sabat on Thursday June 05, 2008 @05:58PM (#210385)
Pissing people off garners attention, sure. I'm not sure it's good business in the long run, though.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by webwright on Friday June 06, 2008 @01:18AM (#210632)
I don't want to say that nice guys finish last, but certainly a big slice of the people at the "top" of the tech world aren't taking the middle ground. Pissing people off seems to correlate with success.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by run4yourlives on Friday June 06, 2008 @12:07PM (#210915)
Um, they're proving otherwise. They've pissed off a whole boatload of people, and their customer based is still growing.

It's that old, "it nobody hates you, you aren't doing anything worthwhile".

Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by sabat on Sunday June 08, 2008 @12:58AM (#211927)
Or, maybe their bullshit hasn't caught up with them yet.
Re:Why We Don't Skip Photoshop by helveticaman on Thursday June 05, 2008 @07:03PM (#210435)
I agree, but...maybe it is good in the long term. I can conceive of that being the case.