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Re:Richard M. Stallman resigns by roenxi on Monday September 16, 2019 @11:42PM (#20991202)
If there is a belief that is backed up by evidence (and in this case there is) then the first response should always be to provide that evidence.

Just because someone sincerely believes that others are subhuman doesn't mean the conversation ends immediately. We could try providing evidence and clarifying whether they are dead-centre wrong or just dealing with a technical detail before turning to exclusionary tactics.

I mean, seriously. If the choices are (1) end the conversation, try and get someone to resign and (2) try and convince someone to take a different view through conversation over a few days then (2) is far superior. We have a lot of people working in, eg, law and the upper echelons of business who are fantastic contributors to the general good despite having extremely questionable moral stances.

Re:Richard M. Stallman resigns by UncleMeat on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @01:11AM (#20991795)
Is that also the second response? And the 100th? It isn't like Stallman provided new arguments or new evidence here. This wasn't the first response. It was the 100th.
Re:Richard M. Stallman resigns by bb88 on Monday September 16, 2019 @11:58PM (#20991344)
> Just because someone sincerely believes that others are subhuman doesn't mean the conversation ends immediately.

Holocaust deniers used this very tactic under the banner of "skepticism".

They wrote books, they gave speeches. They participated in "academic debate" as if the authenticity of the holocaust was something to be debated.

And they caused a lot of pain to those that did live through the holocaust -- only to hear from someone making false claims that it did not, in fact, happen.

Re:Richard M. Stallman resigns by anortef on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @12:17AM (#20991475)
Thanks to people that instead of refusing to debate the deniers choose to show proof of why they were wrong, nowadays, 74 years after the horrors, we have readily available proof to counter the lies of whom, with malice, try to deny it again. If people had chosen the first tactic of refusing to debate the most probable thing would be that we wouldn't have this amount of proof to counter them today.

We should always explain why something is wrong and try to convince to avoid future trouble.

Re:Richard M. Stallman resigns by bb88 on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @01:38PM (#20997899)
The problem of course being, that Holocaust victims were asked to be more logical about genocide while denialists defended the notion that it didn't happen at all.
Re:Richard M. Stallman resigns by roenxi on Tuesday September 17, 2019 @12:04AM (#20991392)
If someone using a tactic in bad faith means we can't use the tactic any more, we're going to be in a lot of trouble. People talking about things they don't understand and being in need of correction goes a bit deeper than "well, Holocause deniers ask questions too!".

Stallman is not a serial Holocaust denier. He is a software philosopher.

And insofar as he is an agitator, on most of his pet topics time has proven him to be right rather than to be a troll.