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Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by justinzollars on Saturday September 14, 2019 @12:18PM (#20971772)
I would rephrase this to say, in America we have less trust in government and more trust in the individual. The distinction is this: No one is forcing anyone to use Libra its your choice. : )
Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by gjulianm on Saturday September 14, 2019 @03:16PM (#20973073)
> No one is forcing anyone to use Libra its your choice.

Don't be naive.

- In order to make a choice, you need to be properly informed. Now, most people won't have the time or interest to see what Libra is and what the consequences of widespread Libra adoption would be.

- Facebook can force a sector of their paying users (mainly advertisers) to use Libra.

- Facebook also has a lot of influence, most people use at least one of Facebook, Instagram or Whatsapp. Those apps can be used to advertise and push Libra.

- Once Libra adoption reaches a critical point, you'd need to use it because you need to buy things.

- You don't need to use it to suffer negative consequences due to a private foreign for-profit business controlling monetary policy.

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by clarkmoody on Saturday September 14, 2019 @04:20PM (#20973500)
> You don't need to use it to suffer negative consequences due to a private foreign for-profit business controlling monetary policy.

And the track record of public, non-profit entities controlling monetary policy is ... great?

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by gjulianm on Saturday September 14, 2019 @04:25PM (#20973525)
Nothing indicates that Facebook would have a better track record in controlling monetary policy (which is admittedly pretty hard), and at least central banks are under clear regulations and guidelines.

Furthermore, Libra would have incentive to move the policy towards further profit for the members, while central banks have incentives to stabilize the economy.

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by jacquesm on Saturday September 14, 2019 @12:50PM (#20972011)
> I would rephrase this to say, in America we have less trust in government and more trust in the individual.

I've seen that said many times in fora (fortunately not so often on HN), but the only people that seem to subscribe to it are the preppers and the gun fanatics, usually using some kind of reference to words that have not been updated in a couple of centuries. It's about as useful as wanting to back to the glory days of England.

Americans trust their government on average just about as much as people of other countries trust theirs, with a notable exception made for the Swiss.

> The distinction is this: No one is forcing anyone to use Libra its your choice. : )

And it is the choice of the democratically chosen governments of France and Germany to decide to so something about it, and I'm fully in agreement with that.

The last we need is for the Zuckerbergs to have the power to start dictating monetary policy, the amount of power he has today is already way more than he should have.

Note that neither Germany nor France has decided to 'block bitcoin', or outlaw it (which they could do, but it remains to be seen how much effect that would have). And we are not forced to use that either.

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by adev_ on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:27PM (#20972329)
> in America we have less trust in government and more trust in the individual

Maybe, excepted that Facebook is not an individual. Compagnies are not individual.

They are just private entities seeking for their own profit and should be treated as such.

There is no trust to have in Facebook: if they can fuck half of the world to double their benefits, they will do it. That's it.

Trusting such entity to ensure "common good of people" through a currency is simply madness. And Libra is exactly that.

I'm sorry if it shock the American "free" way of thinking, but this is our European way of thinking.

Re:France and Germany Agree to Block Facebook's Libra by dragonwriter on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:28PM (#20972337)
> Maybe, excepted that Facebook is not an individual. Compagnies are not individual.

Corporations are exercises or government power, in fact.