What it has to do with it is that I can't justify nations spying if I don't think there should be nations. We are all people.
No one chooses where they are born, their race, gender, etc. If it's wrong to discriminate for things over which we have no control, then I believe place of birth is no different than race or gender.
I’m saying it takes an absolutely unbelievable amount of bourgeoisie privilege to think this. It’s an idea that’s so naive it’s not even worth engaging on the merits, which is why I pointed out that people in certain social and political groups make utopian platitudes like this as a mechanism to signal how elite they are. Kind of like how people pretend to like “modern art” in order to look “cultured”.
I'm not making these statements in order to look anything. It's just what I believe based on my observation of the world around me.
I don't even know what bourgeoisie privilege is.
You're saying it is because it is. It's that way because it's that way and because I believe something, it proves it is that way.
But my belief could be held by someone in a completely different nation experiencing a completely different life, so you haven't added anything to the discussion.
You can't just say, "You're wrong because you believe what you believe and that proves it."
But again I’m not interested in debating open borders on the merits because I’ve been to plenty of places that are ... not nice and not having a border between us and them is a recipe for Civilizational collapse.
>theaticlastic
Never encountered this word before.
Not sure what that has to do with this at all? It definitely sounds like bourgeoisie/boutique political signaling though. Only those with a certain level of privileges can make platitudes like that while the rest of us deal with the real world ... where borders clearly matter.