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Re:Fast radio bursts from space have baffled scientists for ... by bdamm on Thursday September 12, 2019 @12:51PM (#20953638)
This assumes a spherical signal propagation. But signals from antennas, and even from many natural emitters, aren't spherical. It's also possible that the signal is highly directional, like a jet. So, I'm pretty skeptical of these power estimates. For sure the transmitter has a lot of power, but how much exactly? I don't think we can really tell.
Re:Fast radio bursts from space have baffled scientists for ... by RedOrGreen on Friday September 13, 2019 @01:27PM (#20964261)
Sure, that's an excellent point. In case you read late replies: we recognize this, and parameterize the burst energy [1] by a beaming scale factor, \Delta\Omega/4\pi. (It still drops off as the inverse square, though, as long as you're not in the near field.)

The problem is, while you can reduce the energy requirement by making the beams narrow, that increases the total number of sources by the same factor. When we say that there are between 5000-10,000 FRBs all over the sky every single day, we are referring to FRBs beamed towards us. If you apply a 10% beam, your energy requirement drops by 10x, sure, but the source count goes up by 10x.

Right now, we don't have a large enough plausible progenitor population, even at 1x, for these FRBs. It's a really fun problem.

[1] See, e.g, the Methods section in https://www.nature.com/articles/nature20797 (or https://arxiv.org/abs/1701.01098)

Re:Fast radio bursts from space have baffled scientists for ... by bdamm on Friday September 13, 2019 @04:34PM (#20966218)
That is really interesting! I didn't realize how unresolved this truly is.
Re:Fast radio bursts from space have baffled scientists for ... by penagwin on Thursday September 12, 2019 @01:02PM (#20953777)
To be fair though the bar wasn't set vary high.

> power the world for three centuries

Our sun for example is emitting enough energy in all directions to power the world for 300 years (over the course of 300 years), and most of it misses us.

Our sun isn't particularly impressive in terms of energy and such compared to other astro-objects, so I feel like these kinda of events releasing so much energy are to be expected.

Re:Fast radio bursts from space have baffled scientists for ... by perl4ever on Thursday September 12, 2019 @09:03PM (#20958139)
"Our sun for example is emitting enough energy in all directions to power the world for 300 years (over the course of 300 years), and most of it misses us"

I think you're saying any amount of energy can be produced by any amount of power, if the amount of time is unspecified. Which is true, but not substantive.